Universalkits oral amino formulas?

[JACKDAROIDER]

I just saw that they are selling "oral" arginine, ornithine, lysine, etc. After searching about these particular amino acids, it seems there is a lot of research showing they work when injected. I was reading about them on the National Institute of Health's website. Has anyone tried using them to increase GH and testosterone levels.... If so, how did they work for you? I read studies the governement did on rats in the Human Genome Science project..... over a twelve month study, and they proved they can increase muscular size by creating a positive nitrogen balance, and the rodents metabolisms were able to take in more protein after 6 months using arginine, ornithine, lysine.... but only when injected. Nothing oral showed significant increases. It even states this. Is the liver eating it up??? This study was done in the early 80's first, and re-researched because of aids in the mid nineties, which ended up in the discovery of a protein molecule that the NIH scientists isolated. This particular molecule, derived from protein was used to make "Arnold Schwartzenegger" mice..... and the tests seem very positive towards a bodybuilders needs....problem is, they don't mention the dose of the amino acids, duration, time, half life, etc... anyone tried em? PM me if you want the study.... I'm just curious to know if anyone has had a chance to try inj with aminos yet.......I've hear a lot of different opinions, but I would like to know all of yours....No one I have spoken to has tried to inj them yet.

 

[blackbeard]

if you wanted to try amino's i would go to walmart and buy some generic arginine or ornithine..itll be WAY cheaper than buying pumptech by muscle tech lol..

keep in mind most protein powders are stacked with a pretty good amount of BCAA'S

 

[Mudge]

To get a lot of effect from oral aminos sometimes the quanity required will make you ill.

GABA boosts GH but works best injected, I imagine the same is quite true with arginine. Injected is the way to go.

 

[WannaBe]

To get a lot of effect from oral aminos sometimes the quanity required will make you ill.

GABA boosts GH but works best injected, I imagine the same is quite true with arginine. Injected is the way to go.

is this worth the effort? are the gains noticeably better than oral administration?

 

[mighty atom]

To get a lot of effect from oral aminos sometimes the quanity required will make you ill.

GABA boosts GH but works best injected, I imagine the same is quite true with arginine. Injected is the way to go.

Yeah i agree, there were studies i seen on orthinine years back which showed increased skeletal muscle from taking it, but they were taking huge amounts of the stuff. Would be interested to hear if anyone has taken the injectable form though.

 

[JACKDAROIDER]

Yeah, I'm interseted in dosing.... obviously Mr. U is selling it in the right form, question is how much to take??