Using Nolva AND Adex with Cyp/Deca/Bol

[jupiterlocal]

currently on blast with 500cyp,400 Deca/week and 40mg dbol a day for first 3 weeks with thoughts of running Tren at week 4-8 depending on how I react to it.
40 yrs old, experienced with cycling.

Anyway,
I have always used Adex or Aromasin,
BUT I am looking into using Nolva for its Serm properties so I dont have to have the achy joints of finding the right dose of just Dex. Thinking of dropping Dex to .10 (liq) EOD and 20mg nolva ED at night currently but, should I go to just Nolva?

Is this too much? I figured while on Dbol it wouldnt be too much AI/Serm.

Anyone experiment floating between the 2?

 

[jupiterlocal]

No one with any suggestions or anyone used both an AI and SERM?

 

[Megatron28]

If you are experienced why don't you have your AI dose dialed in yet?

If you choose to lower you AI dose and experiment, using Tamoxifen or Raloxifene is a good insurance policy against Gyno. But it won't protect you from the other ill effects of high estrogen.

And if you run the risk if letting your estrogen get to high you need a Dopamine Agonist for sure since you are running deca. Although it is surprising you get achy joints with Deca in play.

 

[clman8585]

Isnt there a drug interaction between adex and nolva?

 

[Megatron28]

Isnt there a drug interaction between adex and nolva?

Yeah, but some say it doesn't matter. Jimi has posted studies.

 

[jupiterlocal]

If you are experienced why don't you have your AI dose dialed in yet?

If you choose to lower you AI dose and experiment, using Tamoxifen or Raloxifene is a good insurance policy against Gyno. But it won't protect you from the other ill effects of high estrogen.

And if you run the risk if letting your estrogen get to high you need a Dopamine Agonist for sure since you are running deca. Although it is surprising you get achy joints with Deca in play.

I usually have AI dialed in. But JUST began with my deca monday this week, and with Jumpstarting with Dbol its always iffy on how to keep bloat down while not crashing Estrogen, and I had heard about the possible interaction of dex and nolva. I can tell when I use to much Dex, my left shoulder hurts, its like clockwork lol.... I like the properties of nolva and the way dex has always been solid performer. I also like the way nolva is supposed to make the tissue die in your tits just in case, I know I am always paranoid about that.
Just being sure no interactions, or I am not going to crash estro by taking both. Thanks for the help as always guys.

 

[jupiterlocal]

Isnt there a drug interaction between adex and nolva?

I read both that it can and that it isnt an issue. I used to use half dosages of adex and aromasin at night when using proviron on cycle. Anyway, just looking to be confident no gyno pops up and possibly kill any that may be hiding no matter how little with the nolva,


thanks for the help

 

[Megatron28]

I usually have AI dialed in. But JUST began with my deca monday this week, and with Jumpstarting with Dbol its always iffy on how to keep bloat down while not crashing Estrogen, and I had heard about the possible interaction of dex and nolva. I can tell when I use to much Dex, my left shoulder hurts, its like clockwork lol.... I like the properties of nolva and the way dex has always been solid performer. I also like the way nolva is supposed to make the tissue die in your tits just in case, I know I am always paranoid about that.
Just being sure no interactions, or I am not going to crash estro by taking both. Thanks for the help as always guys.

Nolva will not do anything to cause you estrogen to be lower. It does NOT lower estrogen. It only blocks estrogen from attaching to the breast tissue receptors. And tricks the pituitary into not being able to sense the amount of estrogen in your body.

If you want my two cents -- crashing one's E2 is a horrible experience. I try to err on the side of letting my E2 be a little bit too high rather than too low.

 

[Megatron28]

I read both that it can and that it isnt an issue. I used to use half dosages of adex and aromasin at night when using proviron on cycle. Anyway, just looking to be confident no gyno pops up and possibly kill any that may be hiding no matter how little with the nolva,


thanks for the help

Get Raloxifene.

 

[slimmdawg2]

Was wondering if using liquid clomid and tomoxafin was ok and what sites r legit to get it from cause i found a few?

 

[JimiThing]

^^ rui- Top of page......

Nolva reduces blood levels of adex however this reduction in blood levels does not result in any change in adex efficacy- so there is no issue.