ITS bothers the VETS because they have spent the time and effort into this and for someone to come in and ask ?'s that could be solved from just simple research ,and because a lot of guys ask ?'s but really just wants someone to tell them that whatever BS they come up with is cool they dont want the truth ,BUT there is some guys here with serious knowledge of bobdybuilding in general not just GEAR,so you have to drop the EGO and listen and learn, it wont come overnight these VETS didnt learn it overnight same as anyone who is serious with bodybuilding.Ithought I had a good knowledge of bodybuilding as a whole untill i got here ,so listen ,read research, plusknow that these guys can keep your ass from going to the hospital from a fuck up that could have been easily avoided ,HELL IM SURE THEY HAVE KEPT A FEW DUMBASSES OUT OF JAIL.