What are my options?

[Big Mac Attack]

Var and Winstrol. That is what boxers use. You can pass a piss test shortly after stopping, get strong and wont hold a lot of water. You wont shut your system down like you did last time either so recovery drugs HCG etc arnt needed.

 

[twoman2000]

280 is alot,what do you weigh and height right now. And go with prop and some dbol. Make sure you do some cardio and drink plenty of water. To put on serious mass, yor gonna nee long acting esters and heavy jice, but wil stay in system longer, so be realistic, if you want like 30 pounds by spring on only prop, fina and dbol, cause then the weight will come of after wards.

 

[califlorida91604]

Bro I used to go to UNLV for 2 years. I lived in Summerlin though and never on campus. The coach there is awesome, he took that CCSN team to national status in like 2 years. Good luck, hopefully you will benefit from having a good coach like that. What position do you play?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Var and Winstrol. That is what boxers use. You can pass a piss test shortly after stopping, get strong and wont hold a lot of water. You wont shut your system down like you did last time either so recovery drugs HCG etc arnt needed.

Wooowwww.......hold on a minute here !!

I really think you had better do some more research before making comments like that. Anavar & Winstrol (winny) most certainly will shut your HPTA down, not as severe as other Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) like testosterone, but you still need to do a proper post cycle therapy consisting of Nolvadex/Clomid and probably HCG.

 

[Johny J]

with all you went through, i cant believe you want to cycle again

 

[Big Mac Attack]

Wooowwww.......hold on a minute here !!

I really think you had better do some more research before making comments like that. Anavar & Winstrol (winny) most certainly will shut your HPTA down, not as severe as other Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) like testosterone, but you still need to do a proper post cycle therapy consisting of Nolvadex/Clomid and probably Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG).

My bad, it was late last night.

True but I have done short cycles 4weeksog both with almost no shut down and I thought he implied a short cycle. He had a real bad shut down once before and might be sensitive and need post cycle therapy. Again my bad. But given what he said in his post and past experience I think those are the best choice.

 

[Eze]

Test Suspension will be out of your system the fastest.

 

[Eze]

Here are the detection times for AAS.

18 months
nandrolone decanoate

12 months
nandrolone phenylpropionate

5 months
boldenone undecyclate
metehenolone enanthate
trenbolone
trenbolone acetate
injectable methandienone

3 months
testosterone-mix (Sustanon & Omnadren)
testosterone enanthate
testosterone cypionate

2 months
oxymetholone
fluoxymesterone
injectabel stanozolol
formebolone
drostanolone propionate

5 weeks
methandienone
mesterolone
ethylestrenole
noretadrolone

3 weeks
oxandrolone
oral stanozolol

2 weeks
testosterone propionate

1 weeks
testosterone undecanoate

4 days
clenbuterol

 

[Big Mac Attack]

"Wooowwww.......hold on a minute here !!

I really think you had better do some more research before making comments like that. Anavar & Winstrol (winny) most certainly will shut your HPTA down, not as severe as other Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) like testosterone, but you still need to do a proper post cycle therapy consisting of Nolvadex/Clomid and probably HCG." <-----stonecold


Mr, stone cold

According to the post above by Easto, I stand by my origional post about clearing out the quickest. The only drugs that will go away faster will shut down way worse thats another reason my first post stands. As far as a shut down from the 2(Var &Winny) drugs in the first post it is minimal. I have done my home work and did that post off memorie. (not bad considering how long that list is)


when these two drugs are done alone in moderate amounts do your blood work then figure out if post cycle thearpy is needed. Post cycle thearpy isnt mandatory it must be done as a response to a cycle and that must be quantified by blood work. Not just saying oh now do these drugs next or you'll be in trouble if you dont. Thats way to arbitary. Post Cycle is more important that a cycle in some cases and guess work isnt acceptable. Sometimes no post cycle thearpy is better than adding more drugs into the system , this being the exception of course.



Winstrol (winny) wont mess with your joints if you dont over do it.

 

[Mudge]

If you have months to work with afterwards I'd do prop and dbol.

Tren acetate 4 - 5 Months detection.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Mr, stone cold

According to the post above by Easto, I stand by my origional post about clearing out the quickest. The only drugs that will go away faster will shut down way worse thats another reason my first post stands. As far as a shut down from the 2(Var &Winny) drugs in the first post it is minimal. I have done my home work and did that post off memorie. (not bad considering how long that list is)


when these two drugs are done alone in moderate amounts do your blood work then figure out if post cycle thearpy is needed. Post cycle thearpy isnt mandatory it must be done as a response to a cycle and that must be quantified by blood work. Not just saying oh now do these drugs next or you'll be in trouble if you dont. Thats way to arbitary. Post Cycle is more important that a cycle in some cases and guess work isnt acceptable. Sometimes no post cycle thearpy is better than adding more drugs into the system , this being the exception of course.



Winstrol (winny) wont mess with your joints if you dont over do it.

You believe what ever you want.....I think you are

The below examples are not even close to bodybuilding dosages, I'd be interested to hear your comment on this.................


Stanozolol @ 10 mg ED for 2 weeks suppressed test by 55% in this study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6430603&dopt=Abstract


Oxandrolone causes significant suppression at 15mg ED within 5 days:

from: http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/84/8/2705

...Total serum T concentrations were within normal physiological range on day 0 (449 ± 35 ng/dL) and day 3 (441 ± 44 ng/dL) of OX treatment. However, by day 5, total serum T concentrations were significantly reduced (282 ± 45 ng/dL; P < 0.05) below day 0 and day 3 values (Fig. 3)...

Figure 3. Total androgen concentration. Total serum T (hatched portion) and OX (black portion) concentrations in five young men on days 0, 3, and 5. *, T decreased significantly from days 0 and 3 to day 5 (P < 0.05).

 

[Big Mac Attack]

Thanks for the links.

Personally I never had a shut down of 55% from 10mg/day of Stanolozol and thats close to the dose I was taking for 3 weeks with nothing else. I was only taking 10mg of Var/day with nothing else and didnt have any dramatic changes either. I will not argue the results of those studies, that is pointless. They may have been performed on less experienced users who may tend to shut down more easily? or be more sensitive to drugs? I'm not sure. In any case given my own experience 8 years of drugs and lots of blood work(past 3 years) I didnt see that dramatic of change in my free test from Stanolozol in 3 weeks. I wish I would have documented it.

I took one drug at a time for 3 weeks in small doses then off for 2 weeks ansd did blood work at the beggining, middle and end of each mini cycle to see what was happening. I have all the blood work but didnt document the drugs with it. I used 7 or 8 drugs for the study and can only go off memorie. I did it 2 years ago for almost 8 months. I noticed that 500 iu/hcg and 50 ED proviron was the magic spot for my recovery. I also remember that my T3 &T4 never really changed much no matter what drug I took, they are in the high end of the normal ranges. I took 1MG/day ED arimedix as I have super high Estrogen levels. I still take it even while I'm off.

It did lead me to one Question:

I wonder if the more drugs one does after a period of years would change their "resistance" to shutting down? or changes your starting point? I dont think that after years of use you ever get back to where you started(fully recovered) due to age and damage caused by playing with your hormone levels. Recovery drugs do get you back to "normal" but after using them for years normal just dosent seem like the place it was for me(I'm 37).