What can you run BETWEEN cycles?

You could cruise on a low dose of Test (200mg) along with a small dose of dbol (10mg) and as a wise man state above...I would never stop eating!

this is very bad advice buddy.
to go OFF cycle is to be OFFF!
and dbol is liver toxic. are you recomending him take 10mg (*low dose but dont matter) gofor 6 months?

if the guy wants to stay on hrt the rest of his life (100-200mg ew test) then ok.
but if he want to give his body a break and recover this ISNOT the way.

im on hrt and am on 200mg ew of test a few months of the year the rest is cycles.
but this is HRT i woudl not call it "off" for the normal person.
 
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Lol, jk man, I know I dont!

But, how would IGF work for me? And what do they mean WITH insulin? I am type 1 diabetic so I take INSULIN shots EVERYTIME I eat. About 60 units throughout the day depending on diet. If I wanna cut, I drop carbs, which makes it so I need like 30 units a day!

I use igf-1lr3 on its own and would never mess with slin unless it was medically needed. very easy to die from and TO ME its not worth its use.
igf1lr3 is great on its own you DONT need slin.
 
I use igf-1lr3 on its own and would never mess with slin unless it was medically needed. very easy to die from and TO ME its not worth its use.
igf1lr3 is great on its own you DONT need slin.

IGF combine with MGF is a great combo. But great advice on using need2slin. It is great for shuttle the extra calories that are needed to keep the gains from a cycle. Essential supplement always in my regimen.
 
this is very bad advice buddy.
to go OFF cycle is to be OFFF!
and dbol is liver toxic. are you recomending him take 10mg (*low dose but dont matter) gofor 6 months?

if the guy wants to stay on hrt the rest of his life (100-200mg ew test) then ok.
but if he want to give his body a break and recover this ISNOT the way.

im on hrt and am on 200mg ew of test a few months of the year the rest is cycles.
but this is HRT i woudl not call it "off" for the normal person.

His question wasn't what can I take when I come off. His question was what can I take in between to keep motiviated until his next cycle. Unless I read his post wrong, which I just read again and saw the same as I did the first time. 10mg of Dbol isn't any more liver toxic than most meds that doc's prescribe on a daily basis. I know quite a few people who stay on 10mg of dbol year round for the dopamine effects and no issues with liver whatsoever. I'd argue the fact that it's bad advice just because you wouldn't do it or recommend it. The guy is asking for ideas and it's not horrible advice if you think about it unless he absolutely wants to stay clean in between until his next cycle. In which case, I didn't see him mention that so if I missed that, I apologize. Anyway, no hard feelings....just my opinion as we all have.
 
What you mean by that?


what i mean is, you need carbs to grow, along with everything else, but carbs to a diabetic can be poison if not manipulated properly along with sugars, etc.

Carb manipulation is just harder for a Type 1, not impossible, just harder. More challenging is maybe a better term.

And again, I'm talking for max muscle growth, not just daily nutrition.
 
what i mean is, you need carbs to grow, along with everything else, but carbs to a diabetic can be poison if not manipulated properly along with sugars, etc.

Carb manipulation is just harder for a Type 1, not impossible, just harder. More challenging is maybe a better term.

And again, I'm talking for max muscle growth, not just daily nutrition.


Again I know it's already been mentioned but the Slin may just help with the carbs!
 
the answer is :

that's you, then running insulin as a bridge is wicked for you, IGF-1 r3 long is a a part of chain of insulin. research about it. for example in steroids profile.

From what I gather, its said to be a BAD idea to run igf1 by itself, as it can cause GH levels to decline which are a bit more important!?
 
Yes, slin get carbs where they need to go. So, I wondered if uping my carbs so I would have to up my slin would help me grow.


like i said, it could work, but you have to be more vigilant with your BG readings because as you know the slightest increase could change your insulin needs.

I'm not trying to scare you, I"m sure you'll be fine. Just want you to be careful as a Type 1 is totally different than someone who creates insulin.
 
like i said, it could work, but you have to be more vigilant with your BG readings because as you know the slightest increase could change your insulin needs.

I'm not trying to scare you, I"m sure you'll be fine. Just want you to be careful as a Type 1 is totally different than someone who creates insulin.

I know man, sorry to keep going with this, I am just interested obvioously...I read about need2slin, and from a study I read it basiaclly makes you realese more Insulin, which for me, wouldnt do shit since my pancreas makes NON and never will. So, I am wondering if MORE slin means MORE muscles? I wouldnt do anything unsafe...I mean, Now, like I said, I maybe take 60 units a day based on my diet, so if I went up to say, 80 would I get bigger? (Simple terms). It wouldnt hurt me, I would simply add a few carbs/sugar to each meal so I didnt go hypoglycemic
 
I know man, sorry to keep going with this, I am just interested obvioously...I read about need2slin, and from a study I read it basiaclly makes you realese more Insulin, which for me, wouldnt do shit since my pancreas makes NON and never will. So, I am wondering if MORE slin means MORE muscles? I wouldnt do anything unsafe...I mean, Now, like I said, I maybe take 60 units a day based on my diet, so if I went up to say, 80 would I get bigger? (Simple terms). It wouldnt hurt me, I would simply add a few carbs/sugar to each meal so I didnt go hypoglycemic

don't know. best way to tell is to just try.
 
You could stack a bunch of natural test boosters... bulbine, DAA, fenugreek, etc... along with some AIs like erase, sustain alpha... natty test boosters cost a lot though, considering how much you can get out of one vial of test comparatively.
 
Igf is thought to blunt the release of gh slightly. What does that mean. Who knows because I use it all the time and it works great. I just don't use it right before bed buy many people use gh and igf so I really wouldnt worry that it would blunt gh.
 
If you do a form of GH, you can supplement with CJC 1295 DAC. Basically, this just allows for a longer stronger initial bonding process and therefore a longer half life... so your somatophrins (or somotacrin) can repair and rejuevenate. The somatophrins are essentially AAs generated in the hypothalamus, so it great to preserve as much as possible. You may also run a strand that helps natural secretion. MGF is a good option for growth and would allow you to maintain over a break. Also, I believe you should run something that has repairing agents to fully allow your body to heal- that's where IGF is great and GHRP-6, also the S4 helped my injury symptoms A LOT, paired with IGF. I did both alone and it was nice, but togther- great!.

Keep us posted!
 
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