what happens shoot gear into a vein?

[Swolehead1]

i just did a shot and before i injected i pulled the plunger out to see if there was any blood, and there wasnt, but when i took the needle out there was a drop of blood inside. i only shot 25% of a cc of test enan. would it even make a difference?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

The following three "quotes" were taken from the poll; "do you always aspirate".
I really think they sum up that poll, and seeing as the poll has been around for awhile and these posts were at the bottom, meaning alot of you might not see these comments, I thought a special thread was in order !!

There is some excellent information in them, I know I learned an important thing - don't pull back too hard on the plunger when aspirating. There are other points too, that could well save your life, so please have a look over these again, and if you don't do it 100% of the time, please do from now on.

Originally posted by buffdoc
It's easy to aspirate and inject one-handed in glutes and delts, aspirate with thumb nail. A little flick is all you need, if you aspirate TOO hard, the negative pressure you create can collapse the thin-walled vein around the needle tip, and no blood comes back, you inject IV.
I don't do it with B-12, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), stuff like that, but with oil-based gear?! Crazy not to. A big, viscous oil emolism has the potential to kill you. It takes about 5 seconds for that stuff to hit the pulmonary artery. Be careful, it only takes one out of 10,000, half a second is worth it.

Originally posted by not2friendly
Years ago I didn't. Then it was a kinda off and on thing. Now...everytime! Not sure how many of you guys have actually hit a vein, but if you haven't know that it sucks much ass. I felt like I had goddamn pnumonia. Lungs felt las if they had a bunch of fluid in them (couldn't imagine what TB would be like). I didn't notice anything in my head, pain wise, though. Same symptoms for a friend of mine that did it too. If you do hit a vein, a bit of advice, take a shot of whiskey or something right away. It opens up ones lungs (I am not gonna go into the physiology of it). Albuterol might work too, if it's handy, Clen would take longer to kick in and by the time it did the feeling would be gone. But either way the feeling of drowning goes away.

Originally posted by buffdoc
You're describing what I just mentioned in my previous post: a pulmonary oil embolus. You had a generalized, reactive pulmonary vasoconstriction, with an acute increase in pulmonary vascular resistance, putting a huge (but temporary) strain on the right ventricle of the heart. In someone with heart disease or a congenital defect, this could result in an AMI (heart attack). Probably experienced some secondary pulmonary edema, too (fluid in the alveoli or air sacs, hence the shortness of breath).
I hope everyone sees your post; this is nothing to fuck around with when you're injecting oils!! Aspirate, and then don't move it around while injecting.

 

[Swolehead1]

wtf man out of all the posts ive read on this board ive never been told this shit...im pissed but i guess im ok because i feel fine

 

[pullinbig]

I dont aspirate and never have. my point is that you cant keep the end of the needle in the exact same place when going from pulling to pushing. if its cold gear you know tough it can be tough to push some times esp with 25g pins.

i have hit veins numerous times and i get a taste and a cough. of course the tren cough is earth moving but the others are just a cough or two.

i have never recieved a shot from a doc or nurse that aspirated either.

just sharing my 2ml.

 

[MF'N S]

doc's dont usually shoot in the side of the leg (where the most veins are). lve done well over 100 shots and only pulled back blood once. thats enough to keep me doin it forever. just seein all my blood come out hella dark into my siringe turned my stomach and l didnt even shoot that day.

 

[apex]

pulling big. Its hard to believe that your doc or nurse never aspirates... since they HAVE to when giving injections or they could be in serious law problems. Now judging by your other posts you seem to know what you're talking about hell even more then me BUT are you sure you know what aspirating IS?! because if they dont when they give you an inject it can mean serious trouble.....

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Doctors and Nurses always aspirate, you just don't always notice it though. They just give the plunger a little "flick" and inject. That little flick is all you need to do, if you are in a vein, you know right away.

 

[apex]

Thats exactly what I was thinking.

 

[MF'N S]

yeah if you're in a vain you know RIGHT away. its not a little red drop mixed in solution its pure dark-ass red blood.

 

[mack truck]

I inject in my quads most of the time I have hit veins before and even if you dont aspirate if you let it sit there for a few seconds blood will mix into the solution and you will know if your in a vein or not if you are pull out change neddles and go again

 

[Swolehead1]

thanks for this information, out of all the posts ive read no one ever mentions it. It needs to be brought up more often before someone fucks theirself up.

 

[atramell]

Its so rare to hit the vein in the glutes though right?...So just stick with those.

 

[bigjay00]

If you do a search you will find a thread started by me about this -- got it into a vein once, wasn't fun

 

[tommbstone]

humm never have tried to aspirate before. Never hit a vain in 5 yrs either, maybe i have no heart. LOL

 

[Micro]

Its so rare to hit the vein in the glutes though right?...So just stick with those.

I've hit veins in my glutes plenty of times.

 

[steel701]

yeah if you're in a vain you know RIGHT away. its not a little red drop mixed in solution its pure dark-ass red blood.

I did a shot of test in the quad yesterday-- I aspirated as usual and didn't see any blood in the tip of the syringe so I injected. After I finished injecting the 2cc's, I saw a few miniscule drops of blood in the tip of the syringe after pulling out. It freaked me out for a second but I haven't noticed any adverse effects and my leg is starting to get a little sore like it usually does from Aratest2500, so I'm figuring everything is cool.

Just to mention, I usually aspirate with one hand by using my thumb and index finger (by pushing slowly against the top of the syringe while holding the plunger). When I feel that vacuum suction and I see a small bubble float up, I give myself the green light to inject.

Is this the right way to aspirate? What's all this talk about sucking in the wall of a vein and not knowing you're injecting into one? Can anyone also explain why there were a few drops of blood in the syringe after injecting?

 

[DragonRider]

I always aspirate, but I still get a drop of blood occasionally after I pull out. I believe it's from nicking a vein as you pull out, because I usually bleed a little when I see the drop. It's no big deal.

 

[Micro]

I did a shot of test in the quad yesterday-- I aspirated as usual and didn't see any blood in the tip of the syringe so I injected. After I finished injecting the 2cc's, I saw a few miniscule drops of blood in the tip of the syringe after pulling out. It freaked me out for a second but I haven't noticed any adverse effects and my leg is starting to get a little sore like it usually does from Aratest2500, so I'm figuring everything is cool.

Just to mention, I usually aspirate with one hand by using my thumb and index finger (by pushing slowly against the top of the syringe while holding the plunger). When I feel that vacuum suction and I see a small bubble float up, I give myself the green light to inject.

Is this the right way to aspirate? What's all this talk about sucking in the wall of a vein and not knowing you're injecting into one? Can anyone also explain why there were a few drops of blood in the syringe after injecting?

That sounds find to me. I do the same thing and once in awhile I get a couple of drops of blood when I pull the syringe out.

 

[rippednick]

i hit a vein like every other shot, the only place i can find that isnt extremely vascular is my rear delts other than that im constantly pulling out from veins. Iv hit veins so many times now that i know what it feels like, theres a certain type of pain i get every time, so dont even have to see blood in the syringe to know. One day i hit veins three times in three different locations i was pretty sick of sticking my self by the time i actually injected it.

 

[Micro]

i hit a vein like every other shot, the only place i can find that isnt extremely vascular is my rear delts other than that im constantly pulling out from veins. Iv hit veins so many times now that i know what it feels like, theres a certain type of pain i get every time, so dont even have to see blood in the syringe to know. One day i hit veins three times in three different locations i was pretty sick of sticking my self by the time i actually injected it.

I hear ya, That happens to me also. Sometimes I get frustrated as hell trying to find a spot were I wont hit a vien. Took me 4 times acouple times before.