What is a good first cyle for a beginner ?

[marc_33]

and by beginner i don't mean a HS kid, im 27 been lifting seriously for past 4 years, in good health and training/diet all on point, but i am a complete noob when it comes to PH, that said i have been doing research for past 1 month in the free time i get. i am just looking for something mild with no serious long term sides. i have a place where i can order serms and a place for PH. can someone recommend some stacks on the market and proper way to dosage pre/on/post cycle ? thanks.

 

[zephyr_987]

you should just go all the way and do a cycle. 400-500mg test, nolva, and AI

 

[tilldeath]

best first cycle for PH IMO is a halodrol clone. Run something like 50/75/75/75/100/100 with cycle support pre loaded 2 weeks prior to start and while on. Fish oil's @ 5-6g ED and a mutli-vitamin. Post nolva @ 20/20/10/10 Fish oil 5-6g ED, DAA 3g ED, I like a mild Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like erase run 0/0/1/2/2/2/1 for possible estro rebound, and something like HCGenerate from needto or other natural test booster.

 

[dingox]

i woldt have to go whit zephyr_987 hehe

 

[losieloos]

Yeah test only, read a lot research research and research

 

[Andreas Munzer]

question is how much do you know already?

 

[nickb86]

start looking at 12 weeks test e cycles buddy, simple oral kick starts and simple mild PH stacks. no deca, tren, eq etc, just simple stuff.

look for Ai's and why to use them
look at serm usage
look at support supplements for orals
look at testicular protection and shut down prevention
look at PCT, timing and strategies etc.

 

[BeastinTheEast]

If you are new to the whole game, i'd start with something really mild and not jump right into testosterone. Try something like Epi out which is really mild and gains are really solid. But first your going to want to do a lot of reading like mentioned above^^^

A solid Cycle would be:
Helladrol: 75/75/75/100/100/100
or
Beast Epi 60: 60/60/60/60/60/60
N2-Guard: 6-7 Caps through entire cycle for overall health support.
HCGenerate (optional) To prevent on cycle shut down and improve PCT response.
Creatine Monohydrate @ 15 Grams per day
RS Transaderm Throughout cycle for a Test Base.

PCT:
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo
D-AA
Clomid 50/50/25/25

Make sure you eat a ton and drink lots of water too.

 

[nickb86]

good advice above bud have alook into things and make the right choice

 

[gymrat827]

If you are new to the whole game, i'd start with something really mild and not jump right into testosterone. Try something like Epi out which is really mild and gains are really solid. But first your going to want to do a lot of reading like mentioned above^^^

A solid Cycle would be:
Helladrol: 75/75/75/100/100/100
or
Beast Epi 60: 60/60/60/60/60/60
N2-Guard: 6-7 Caps through entire cycle for overall health support.
HCGenerate (optional) To prevent on cycle shut down and improve post cycle therapy (pct) response.
Creatine Monohydrate @ 15 Grams per day
RS Transaderm Throughout cycle for a Test Base.

post cycle therapy (pct):
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo
D-AA
Clomid 50/50/25/25

Make sure you eat a ton and drink lots of water too.

this.

a easy oral run to start. plus we dont know if he can get real tes or not. all this stuff is easy to get.


i would run a higher dose of clomid than above but the basics and what not are the same. i would maybe run forma stanzol instead of transderm or both really. need the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in there IMO. DAA is a great, cheap, effective supp i think most guys should be using.


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