What is the point of taking steroids ?

[kaname]

Dang OP, and here I thought, with all the bashin you have been doing since u joined, I thought u had maybe used AAS. I was wrong apparently. I've done 3 proper cycles and afterwards kept 85-90% of my gains using proper cycling methods. Steroids are great when used properly. They are pointless when not. Why your on this board in the first place is what I want to know. Try steroids, don't try steroids. I couldn't care less. I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. Only to help people. U on the other hand are a shit starter and have no place here. Have a good one and be safe!!

Dude you chose Guile....sweet good choice good choice. I should get an extra bottle of test e or something for knowing who that is and spelling his name correct. Sonic BOOM!

/end derail

 

[Smokey1970]

Same. I thought feedback would go both ways. Problem is if you give equally harsh feedback (as the tone of the first post was harsh), then you're suddenly not playing by the rules. At this point, this has become my "something to do thread."

Kaname ..you gotta watch the YouTube video made by VitalyzTV..it's called "Do you even lift , bro? " Some just brush the comments off , while others get furious ....the guys who get furious are the insecure ones...you're the guy who gets furious..on the other hand , TEUTONIC is the man...he put me in my place by just answering and not getting all wigged out...perhaps because he is older and wiser...maybe this thread will teach you to chill and see what happens...

 

[KingBF]

You gotta admit , it got you guys going and thats what I needed..straight up answers...I'm convinced now that good diet , training hard , proper PCT can result in long lasting gains

im convinced your still retared since this answer was on the first page more than once. i hope you finish all your reseaching before you start your first cycle

 

[kaname]

Kaname ..you gotta watch the YouTube video made by VitalyzTV..it's called "Do you even lift , bro? " Some just brush the comments off , while others get furious ....the guys who get furious are the insecure ones...you're the guy who gets furious..on the other hand , TEUTONIC is the man...he put me in my place by just answering and not getting all wigged out...perhaps because he is older and wiser...maybe this thread will teach you to chill and see what happens...

Don't confuse passionate talker with being furious. It's pointless for me to even explain or state why I'm not allowed to be the type of person that would get "furious" over this. Its the same as the guy who makes a threat over the internet saying how he can kick this or that a**. But I suspect you already know that, which shows how weak your point of view is. If you can prove my points wrong then do so, if not O well move on. You've done this a number of times. Instead of attacking the topic at hand you throw out the typically "you must be x." No way for someone to prove they aren't "x". One thing to place it in a post as a minor note, but this is the entirety of yours.

In terms of me being furious over this it's laughable. No I get furious at the idiot who fled from us and wrecked into a car crippling a teenager and leaving his friend dead from the fire that ensued. No sir, I'm not furious, I'm just one who can fight for my believes on a subject better or more passionate than most without losing complete sight of what I'm talking about. Strike a nerve yes, but that nerve has nothing to do with being "furious."

As it stands you have still yet to offer up any reasons as to why my main points of my post are invalid. Which you don't have to. But I figured what the hell isn't feedback the point of your post? Or are you just full of shit, and are somebody who needed me to give him the balls to try something they have been itching to do.

 

[Teutonic]

HYL......I ll see to your recovery personally.

(When people poke me in the eye I ussually smash em in the face)

Your spiel on "property rights" belongs in a Supreme Court brief justifying legal soft drug use for personal use, son...VERY NICLEY DONE.

Kaname..ur right I should let em play rougher huh ?

You d be amazed at what arrives in my inbox when people start bashing others...it sun real. I get stuff like so and so said "whatever...and now my pussy hurts...help me ".

My 7 yr old is more of a badass than a 1/3 of the young punk posters on here..

 

[halfwit]

Kaname ..you gotta watch the YouTube video made by VitalyzTV..it's called "Do you even lift , bro? " Some just brush the comments off , while others get furious ....the guys who get furious are the insecure ones...you're the guy who gets furious..on the other hand , TEUTONIC is the man...he put me in my place by just answering and not getting all wigged out...perhaps because he is older and wiser...maybe this thread will teach you to chill and see what happens...

Now you're just instigating. Kaname hasn't lost his cool and has actually stayed in this thread even though you've baited him more than once to attack you knowing that a mod is watching. I don't like how you are openly manipulating readers into answering your questions which you should have had the answers to if you had done ANY research. Watching youtube videos isn't research, it's entertainment by the way. If you want to do research, be a good student and learn how to use the scholarly function of google or use pubmed.

I don't see your stay here being a long one at this rate. Arrogance and self-righteousness might cut it elsewhere, but definitely not here. Good luck.

My .02c

 

[kaname]

HYL......I ll see to your recovery personally.

(When people poke me in the eye I ussually smash em in the face)

Your spiel on "property rights" belongs in a Supreme Court brief justifying legal soft drug use for personal use, son...VERY NICLEY DONE.

Kaname..ur right I should let em play rougher huh ?

You d be amazed at what arrives in my inbox when people start bashing others...it sun real. I get stuff like so and so said "whatever...and now my pussy hurts...help me ".

My 7 yr old is more of a badass than a 1/3 of the young punk posters on here..

I'm pretty lost at this point, as I guess I didn't keep up with who was quoting who. I missed the property rights part, but I think ..... and I'm saying I "think" you are agreeing with me on the "internet tough guy" part. As it stands I'm still wide awake, no doubt my fault for getting into this thread. Only one thing left to do now. Far Cry 3? Yep!

I'll continue to track this from a distance as I'm curious as where it's suppose to / will end up.

 

[StupidKidOnGear]

I used to be 300 lbs, lost the weight and got left with low lean mass and high bf and im using steroids to recomp my body and gain size that i will be able to keep ecause im 20 and my natty test is high sooo steroids have their use . If u dont like them dont use them

 

[bigjuice1987]

After a proper cycle/pct once off you continue to eat and train just as hard as you did when you were on your cycle you can maintain a lot of your gains! Lets Say for example your 180lbs pre cycle then gain 20lbs on cycle,youll be 200lbs, when you come off (correctly) you are down lets say 10lbs making you at 190lbs. Yes you lost some size and water but your still up 10lbs more than if you never ran a cycle. The reason you see some people shrink back down to the same size post cycle is because they're relying only on the drug for gains and not eating/training to their Max both during and after cycles completed. If your looking for a miracle drug you can take and look exactly the same as if your were on, then you'll be disappointed. But if your looking for that little extra to push yourself farther than before then you'll like 'em. Steroids or no steroids it still takes time to build a solid physique!

 

[Vino 1]

Dude you chose Guile....sweet good choice good choice. I should get an extra bottle of test e or something for knowing who that is and spelling his name correct. Sonic BOOM!

/end derail

Haha yes!! Guile was always my favorite

 

[old&stacked]

Your argument is that like using antibiotics for a disiseas then u get sic again and you have to use them again. Are the antibiotica worthless....no but hey u got sic again so they r worthless right. Everytging has tgeir place and people choose to do what they want as adults. You want to not do them...fine but where we find value some one can make the argument of no value and we will agree to disagree.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Seems like the Problem is that most folks on this Blog are current users....I would think.....and can't currently answer what happens if I run 3-4 cycles then retire? I may be wrong but if you havent run a cycle in quite a long time you probably arent hanging out on this forum. He needs to ask one of those personal Trainers in his gym who is like 60 and obviuosly used in his younger days. Would Arnold, Drasin, or Stallone look like they do if they never used.....ever? (I know Stallone still does) Your body definately changes. Look at women who compete. Their bone structure even changes overtime. That doesnt go away.

 

[GriffCity]

I didnt even read the last two pages of this insightful and well thought conversation...Here is how it works smoky my little friend, When one takes anabolic steroids they are synthetically increasing their hormonal uptake of testosterone to the applicable adrogen receptors. Why you ask? Testosterone is the male hormone responsible for secondary sexual characteristics and muscle growth synthesis...If you do not have adequate levels of T in you system it really doesnt matter if you work out like an animal all the time and do all the things you should, you will not grow. Not at any notable rate anyway.
SOOO, why do steroids? By increasing levels of T in the body you are able to build muscle faster, thats the laments version.
"Well im worried i wont keep my gains blah blah"
You are alright to think that way to a certain point...But let me ask you...Does someone who works out naturally to attain there goals maintain all of their gains once they stop and sit on the couch for 6 months and eat candy? No, they do not
Does one retain all of their mass from a buling steroid cycle? No, and there are reasons for this such as water weight, diet, training intensity and other factors.
However, when done properly and not abused supplemental anabolic hormone use can and does provide permanent results.
One may indeed "gain" 25-30 lbs on a larger anabolic cycle and then months after lose much of their gains, this happens for several reasons some of which are listed above, again however, of the 25-30 lbs the said person has gained they are fully capable and able to keep and maintain about 40-50 percent of clean healthy mass. So if you are to do a 12 week cycle and put on 30 lbs, dont go running out and buying a new wardrobe just yet hulkster, you may expect to keep 12-15 lbs and for many that is considerable when you factor taht many have maxed out their natural potential before using aas.
Hope this helps...
GriffCity

 

[bigjuice1987]

I didnt even read the last two pages of this insightful and well thought conversation...Here is how it works smoky my little friend, When one takes anabolic steroids they are synthetically increasing their hormonal uptake of testosterone to the applicable adrogen receptors. Why you ask? Testosterone is the male hormone responsible for secondary sexual characteristics and muscle growth synthesis...If you do not have adequate levels of T in you system it really doesnt matter if you work out like an animal all the time and do all the things you should, you will not grow. Not at any notable rate anyway.
SOOO, why do steroids? By increasing levels of T in the body you are able to build muscle faster, thats the laments version.
"Well im worried i wont keep my gains blah blah"
You are alright to think that way to a certain point...But let me ask you...Does someone who works out naturally to attain there goals maintain all of their gains once they stop and sit on the couch for 6 months and eat candy? No, they do not
Does one retain all of their mass from a buling steroid cycle? No, and there are reasons for this such as water weight, diet, training intensity and other factors.
However, when done properly and not abused supplemental anabolic hormone use can and does provide permanent results.
One may indeed "gain" 25-30 lbs on a larger anabolic cycle and then months after lose much of their gains, this happens for several reasons some of which are listed above, again however, of the 25-30 lbs the said person has gained they are fully capable and able to keep and maintain about 40-50 percent of clean healthy mass. So if you are to do a 12 week cycle and put on 30 lbs, dont go running out and buying a new wardrobe just yet hulkster, you may expect to keep 12-15 lbs and for many that is considerable when you factor taht many have maxed out their natural potential before using aas.
Hope this helps...
GriffCity

Couldn't have said this better myself! Well said Griffcity!!

 

[Smokey1970]

Seems like the Problem is that most folks on this Blog are current users....I would think.....and can't currently answer what happens if I run 3-4 cycles then retire? I may be wrong but if you havent run a cycle in quite a long time you probably arent hanging out on this forum. He needs to ask one of those personal Trainers in his gym who is like 60 and obviuosly used in his younger days. Would Arnold, Drasin, or Stallone look like they do if they never used.....ever? (I know Stallone still does) Your body definately changes. Look at women who compete. Their bone structure even changes overtime. That doesnt go away.

Drasin is on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) now I watch a ton of his videos

 

[Smokey1970]

I didnt even read the last two pages of this insightful and well thought conversation...Here is how it works smoky my little friend, When one takes anabolic steroids they are synthetically increasing their hormonal uptake of testosterone to the applicable adrogen receptors. Why you ask? Testosterone is the male hormone responsible for secondary sexual characteristics and muscle growth synthesis...If you do not have adequate levels of T in you system it really doesnt matter if you work out like an animal all the time and do all the things you should, you will not grow. Not at any notable rate anyway.
SOOO, why do steroids? By increasing levels of T in the body you are able to build muscle faster, thats the laments version.
"Well im worried i wont keep my gains blah blah"
You are alright to think that way to a certain point...But let me ask you...Does someone who works out naturally to attain there goals maintain all of their gains once they stop and sit on the couch for 6 months and eat candy? No, they do not
Does one retain all of their mass from a buling steroid cycle? No, and there are reasons for this such as water weight, diet, training intensity and other factors.
However, when done properly and not abused supplemental anabolic hormone use can and does provide permanent results.
One may indeed "gain" 25-30 lbs on a larger anabolic cycle and then months after lose much of their gains, this happens for several reasons some of which are listed above, again however, of the 25-30 lbs the said person has gained they are fully capable and able to keep and maintain about 40-50 percent of clean healthy mass. So if you are to do a 12 week cycle and put on 30 lbs, dont go running out and buying a new wardrobe just yet hulkster, you may expect to keep 12-15 lbs and for many that is considerable when you factor taht many have maxed out their natural potential before using aas.
Hope this helps...
GriffCity

Yes it helps..it confirms what others are saying as well..appreciate your comments..I'd be completely happy with 10 -12 lbs of clean healthy mass after a cycle

 

[JayDee23]

I like money and i like to look good many reasons but mainly to get puss

 

[Smokey1970]

i like money and i like to look good many reasons but mainly to get puss

lol