What would be the best TRT escape route for someone who has been on for 1 year?

There has attempts that I have heard of where a "re-start" has been successful in cases where low t was diagnoses and improved to an extent.

For "normal" testosterone levels altering the endocrine system while it is functioning properly would be highly dangerous. ASAP said it best "if it ain't broken"
 
At least the Panda has cheered up and dumped its sadness. That picture was fucking depressing to look at.
lol
Panda you coming back ?
We wanna help you.
 
HC is a very aggressive medication. I am just wondering, how long have you been on it? Just wondering how thorough of a process you went through to get prescribed. That is def a long term med that is very hard to come off.
 
If you start the program because your levels of T were low, yes it is considered "for life", after TRT they will not be any higher so if starting TRT for the correct purposes you should want to continue your TRT unless you want to regress to previous symptoms you were experiencing. It's either use TRT for life or "have low libido, low energy, brain fog, depression, pains and aches" for life :)

The TRT for life statement always comes off as it being a bad thing, I believe the contrary is true. With TRT you are in charge of your T levels and your quality of life/libido.

This is why you guys will always have customers as I've yet to meet an endocrinologist with the same outlook on TRT. I just had an appointment yesterday with a new endo, and the first thing out of her mouth (I've been on TRT for four years) is that, "Most men don't even need therapy." After feeling the need to educate this pompous woman for the next 30 minutes (I was only there to see if I could get HCG legitimately to backfill my adrenal pathways) I had to leave her with, "I guess you can manage my diabetes only then as you can't mess that up any more than it already is."

Yeah, a guy with primary hypogonadism with an initial baseline of 120ng/dL totally shouldn't be on TRT. SOME DAY I will be in touch with you guys, that's a guaranteed inevitability.

Panda: I think you've gotten some great advice in here, and I do think you should take what these guys are saying to heart.

My .02c :)
 
I thought something was up with you Panda.
Panda...I'm not hear to preach. But I feel I must give you my 2 cents for the sake of humanity.
We both share the earth together.
Why are you doing roids at 21 ?
what's wrong???
do you have anyone to talk to that can figure things out for you?
Don't be ashamed to find someone in the medical profession to open up to. This is serious.
Don't you see all the problems with guys dealing with Low T in this forum ??
Why are you bringing unnecessary problems onto your self.
At 21 you should be tearing walls down with your natural hormones, not taking AAS.
You are not even finished growing yet.

He wants to be da man.
 
Clomid Nolva and large amount of HCG all raise SHBG. I doubt it had much to do with you suplementing T3.

I tried the same restart minus the T3 and ended up with a total t of 1119 but with a SHBG of 73. Although I only ran them for 6 weeks so after 3 months my levels were back down to the 300's.

I think the best strategy is an addition 2-6 months of clomid After the restart. It takes time to restart the HPTA


Bro, I know it was not the clomid and shbg because I have gotten so many labs in the last year even before I started t3. I took up to 125 mg of t3 and lower but still high amounts for 12-15 weeks. My shbg was high, I cleared my rt3 dropped my t3 down to 75 mcg, a month later (still on nolva n clomid) got labs and shbg was down from 75 to 23 or something. So it was definitely the t3.
 
Clomid Nolva and large amount of HCG all raise SHBG. I doubt it had much to do with you suplementing T3.

I tried the same restart minus the T3 and ended up with a total t of 1119 but with a SHBG of 73. Although I only ran them for 6 weeks so after 3 months my levels were back down to the 300's.

I think the best strategy is an addition 2-6 months of clomid After the restart. It takes time to restart the HPTA


I agree with you on running clomid 2-6 months after the restart because that's exactly what I did.
 
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