What would you guys suggest for my second cut cycle?

[shonosuke]

First cycle was:
Test-e 1-12 500
Dbol 1-6 30
Nolva 14-17 20

Got amazing results and gained a solid 14 lbs (minus the gains lost after I finished pct)

Anyway now I'm eating slightly above maintenace until my next cycle and I would like to get my bodyfat percentage down a bit from 15 to like 10-11ish, while maybe even gaining some mass and gaining strength, if that's not possible I just want to cut while holding onto as much mass and strength as possible.

Anavar sounds like it would be great for this but I'm not a big fan of an oral only cycle, what would you guys reccomend? rather wait with the tren until my 3rd bulk cycle

 

[DADAWG]

why not run the same cycle but replace the dbol with var , run the var at 50-60 mg a day for 6 weeks. diet will determine if its a cutter or bulker.

 

[shonosuke]

why not run the same cycle but replace the dbol with var , run the var at 50-60 mg a day for 6 weeks. diet will determine if its a cutter or bulker.

Thanks, sounds really logical and simple, just the advice I was looking for.

Also had a question about tren, when I do decide to use it, should I just keep it simple again and do test+tren+dbol? test and tren both at 500 and dbol at 30? Was also looking into Halotestin but I heard it will brutally rape my liver

 

[DADAWG]

Thanks, sounds really logical and simple, just the advice I was looking for.

Also had a question about tren, when I do decide to use it, should I just keep it simple again and do test+tren+dbol? test and tren both at 500 and dbol at 30? Was also looking into Halotestin but I heard it will brutally rape my liver

I would wait 1 more cycle anyway , no reason to pull out the big gun when the other stuff is still working well.

 

[Beck-Miester]

I would wait 1 more cycle anyway , no reason to pull out the big gun when the other stuff is still working well.

I agree...but when you do (3rd or later cycle), keep it simple again with test & tren. Drop the dbol. If you're looking for a kicker, add 50mg of test suspension b4 your workout in the first couple of weeks while your blood levels are still rising

 

[shonosuke]

Thanks guys.

Been doing some research on cutting with test-e and var and I can't decide if I should do 250 or 500 test-e during a cut cycle. And is it better to use Anavar at the start or at the end?

 

[joe d]

First cycle was:
Test-e 1-12 500
Dbol 1-6 30
Nolva 14-17 20

Got amazing results and gained a solid 14 lbs (minus the gains lost after I finished pct)

Anyway now I'm eating slightly above maintenace until my next cycle and I would like to get my bodyfat percentage down a bit from 15 to like 10-11ish, while maybe even gaining some mass and gaining strength, if that's not possible I just want to cut while holding onto as much mass and strength as possible.

Anavar sounds like it would be great for this but I'm not a big fan of an oral only cycle, what would you guys reccomend? rather wait with the tren until my 3rd bulk cycle

if your whole pct was just 3 weeks of nolva that is lousy. id add a month of 50mg clomid to that minimum. id start the clomid at the same time as the nolva.

i agree with the idea of running var. id do it like this

1-12 500mg test e or c ew
1-12 50mg var ed
1-14 .5mg adex eod
2 weeks after your last test dose start pct
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 20/20/20

a good clean diet with plenty of water.

 

[joe d]

Thanks guys.

Been doing some research on cutting with test-e and var and I can't decide if I should do 250 or 500 test-e during a cut cycle. And is it better to use Anavar at the start or at the end?

if you want to do a higher dose for a shorter period of time the end would be a little better imo, but what would work best imo is to use a low enough dose (50mg) to be able to run it the entire cycle.