Whats the best Cycle here???
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zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Your getting to far ahead of yourself!!! slow the fuck down !!
Just do a Test cycle for now at 500mg a week and take the rest from there. I say 500mg for a reason, this is your first cycle and you stand to gain the most, you're going to get shut down if it's 300mg or 500mg and the results you get from Test are dose dependent. Do youself a favour and get what you can out of your first cycle, that's 500mg.
You do not want to be doing Tren for a second cycle, wait until you've got some experience. I personally think you should wait years before doping Tren, and you've never even done 1 post cycle therapy (pct) yet!!
and 250mg of EQ, waste of time
Keep it simple and do research!!
Just do a Test cycle for now at 500mg a week and take the rest from there. I say 500mg for a reason, this is your first cycle and you stand to gain the most, you're going to get shut down if it's 300mg or 500mg and the results you get from Test are dose dependent. Do youself a favour and get what you can out of your first cycle, that's 500mg.
You do not want to be doing Tren for a second cycle, wait until you've got some experience. I personally think you should wait years before doping Tren, and you've never even done 1 post cycle therapy (pct) yet!!
and 250mg of EQ, waste of time
Keep it simple and do research!!
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inkpack4141
Here to learn
Test E at 500mg's a week. Monday 250mg and Thursday 250mg. I would suggest keeping the first cycle simple with just test, not adding any EQ or Deca in. Sure your first cycle you gain your most because your body and receptors are clean so it can be argued to throw in deca or eq to get the most out of that first cycle but you dont want to overdue yourself on the first cycle either. Keep it simple because you'd prolly like to see how jabbing yourself feels the first time around..who knows you may not even like it. so 2 times a week compared to 4 is going to be better..you know its getting your feet wet. And you'll still get huge gains off just test no doubt about it..as long as your diet is in check. The only other thing I'd suggest is to kick start with some D-bol for the first 4 or 5 weeks.
phluxx
New member
lol I didn't even read the whole post. You are all over the place. Also, 8 weeks of test E/C = a colossal waste of time IMO. I'm on my 5th week of TestC and deca, and it's just starting to make me feel like I'm a fucking beast. 12 weeks or bust.
It just seems funny how you want to run 8 weeks in the first cycle to mitigate some of the sides I am assuming, but then for your second cycle you're opting to use tren. Doesn't make sense to me.
It just seems funny how you want to run 8 weeks in the first cycle to mitigate some of the sides I am assuming, but then for your second cycle you're opting to use tren. Doesn't make sense to me.
Parsons
The new beginning
yah ive done some more research , man so many hours invested on research! im sure it'll all pay off in the end... sorry for the crazy post. just tryin to get more under standing, sold the tren i had and got more test
im now thinking test e for 10 weeks @ 400mg, keep in mind im only 5' 5" @ 160lbs
then test e and eq for 8 weeks
followed by some post cycle therapy (pct) nolva and clomid
i was then thinking to try winstrol shortly after my post cycle therapy (pct). is that a good idea or should i run this befor my post cycle therapy (pct)???
im now thinking test e for 10 weeks @ 400mg, keep in mind im only 5' 5" @ 160lbs
then test e and eq for 8 weeks
followed by some post cycle therapy (pct) nolva and clomid
i was then thinking to try winstrol shortly after my post cycle therapy (pct). is that a good idea or should i run this befor my post cycle therapy (pct)???
Cakalac
Informed Member
juced_porkchop
Moderator
OMG still alover the place. post cycle therapy (pct) is post cycle thearapy to help you recover after a cycle. you know this right?
so tell em this why would you ask if its ok to run Winstrol (winny) after post cycle therapy (pct)? dosnt Winstrol (winny) shut you down? i hope you know thats a yes ALL STEROIDS SHUT YOU DOWN some more then others.
i dotn knwo why u would take 10wks test the another 8 weeks test and eq. did you not run a search on EQ ? if you did you would see it should be 16-18 weeks in langth "a short cycle with eq that is"
so why would you take it for 8 weeks when its got one of the slowest esters and tgakes the longest for results??.
and some one just told you 8 weeks of test cyp/e is a waste. listen.
look :
500mg test E or CYP wk1-12
then 2 weeks after last shot start post cycle therapy (pct).
thats it.
if you must ad an oral dont ad one of the most harsh ones there is "my op". add tbol maybe dbol.
for a first cycle i woukd just do that!
your ALL OVER THE PLACE STILL. do this if you must but keep on readung and learning as i can see theres still ALOT for you to go in understanding what your doing.
personaly i dont think your ready to start yet but atleast your asking questions.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
also bulk then after keep cals high and keep bulking diet as you recover then a few months later cut dont bulk then go try and cut when your vunrable you will loos alot of muscle and its just dumb eather bulk or cut dotn do both in a cycle atleast nto one thats under 20wks long lol
Parsons
The new beginning
yes i know what post cycle therapy (pct) is.... and i know to take alot of protien and calories during it
i was just wondering if i should start the Winstrol (winny) (injectable) after i bulk, which i guess now is true.
so this would be more like
weeks 1-18 test @ 400mg/wk ,weeks 4-18 Eq & possibly epistane weeks 16-20 @ 40mg
then post cycle therapy (pct)
nolva & clomid
nolva for the firsy two weeks as a estrogen blocker and clomid for the next to weeks as to stimulate HPTA to start natural test production
i was just wondering if i should start the Winstrol (winny) (injectable) after i bulk, which i guess now is true.
so this would be more like
weeks 1-18 test @ 400mg/wk ,weeks 4-18 Eq & possibly epistane weeks 16-20 @ 40mg
then post cycle therapy (pct)
nolva & clomid
nolva for the firsy two weeks as a estrogen blocker and clomid for the next to weeks as to stimulate HPTA to start natural test production
If you have to run a cycle right now, just stick with test only for 12 weeks at 400-500mg and fuck everything else. I think you're getting ahead of yourself. Just keep it simple; save the Winstrol (winny), save the eq, and save whatever else you have for another day. Get your feet wet first and then go from there.
Of course there's a lot to read. The reason is because if you're going to use gear you better be educated on the subject and know what the hell you're doing.
Regardless of how much reading is involved, none of these "cycles" you've posted or are thinking about doing make any sense. At first you want to do test e only for 10 weeks (not a bad cycle), but then you mention next you want to run an 8 week cycle of test e and eq (terrible cycle) and randomly through winstrol by itself right after your post cycle therapy (pct). Then you jump to an 18 week cycle of test were you don't start eq until week 4 (once again a terrible cycle).
I'm sorry, but all of these ideas you have are just totally illogical and irrational. You seem to have so many ideas that are just all over the place. I don't know what you've been reading, but search in some other places if this is the info you've been receiving. Like I said earlier, just make it simple for you first cycle, take 500mg weekly test e for 12 weeks and LOOK HEAVILY INTO PCT, because I'm guessing that if you know this little about cycling, you must know even less about PCT.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
why are you insisting on this mix of stuff run 1 or 2 things and thats it and at a decent dose and amount of time.
eq is used in longer cycles but not usaly in first cycles.
test 500mg for 12 weeks thats it . maybe just maybe tbol or dbol the first 4 weeks . dich the Winstrol (winny) man.
thats what i think.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
and remember post cycle therapy (pct) should be at the top of your list.
Parsons
The new beginning
thanx guys, before i do any thing i'll post what my final outcome will be if i decide to do this. i'll include all details. i know my first few ideas on here were bogus now that i have done more research. my post cycle therapy (pct) knowledge is pretty good seeing as its the most important peice of any cycle.
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