Which 2nd Cycle would you go with?

[macgyver]

My first was 750 test enan (only) for 10 weeks, nothing else. I am considering a combo or either test/dbol, test/eq, or test/dbol/eq. I had no gyno problems at all from just the test, and gained about 20 lbs. Would it be best to only add one substance at a time, to narrow down the cause of any sides, or would you go with all three for a second cycle. Also, since I did 750 the first one, do I have to do at least that for the second one? I was thinking of doing 500 test this time, but adding 25-30mgs of dbol (wk 1-4), running the entire cycle for 12 weeks. I know the doses for all three, but I was wondering what you would do the second time around, considering the amount of test on my first cycle. Thanks!

 

[macgyver]

Oh, and my goal is more mass, not cutting. I'm 6-0, 215, 13% bf. Thanks again!

 

[needsize]

The test was kinda high for a first cycle, usually you raise it a bit after the first one, but I wouldnt suggest going higher. There are a few variables too, like how long has it been since your cycle was finished. Off hand, my suggestion would be for 750mg of test along with some dbol

 

[StoneColdNTO]

The test was kinda high for a first cycle, usually you raise it a bit after the first one, but I wouldnt suggest going higher. There are a few variables too, like how long has it been since your cycle was finished. Off hand, my suggestion would be for 750mg of test along with some dbol

Ditto......

....Also, have you thought about adding Deca since you are going for mass, you could probably cut the Test down a little bit that way, say 600 mg of Test & 300-400 mg of Deca.

 

[needsize]

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....Also, have you thought about adding Deca since you are going for mass, you could probably cut the Test down a little bit that way, say 600 mg of Test & 300-400 mg of Deca. [/B]

I like that one too

 

[JohnnyB]

Dayum 750 on the first

JohnnyB

 

[jcp2]

how about 500mg of test and 400mg of deca, or 600mg of eq. I doubt you need all that test. I would run it without the dbol, but that is me.

 

[macgyver]

O.K. Here's the deal. NO FLAMING PLEASE! lol I started my cycle @ 500 e/w. I really wasn't noticing anything at the start of week 5, so I bumped it to 750. OF COURSE, I was probably impatient cause it definitely started about the end of that week. I am only starting my 8th week (have only done 750 the last two weeks). As you can see, I'm a little more than mid cycle. I was trying to get some early advice for preparation reasons, for my next one. I will wait 10 weeks, following this one (running it either 10 or 12 weeks, then pct/clomid), before starting my next one. Do you think I should drop it back to 500 for the remainder of this cycle (since I only upped it for two weeks), or would I be better off just continuing it at 750? If I could drop it back down, it would (of course) make the gear last longer, and may help the next cycle starting at 500 again. Thanks again!

 

[trunkz]

since you've already changed mid-cycle(a no-no) don't do it again. stick with what you're doing. since it's enan and not a short ester like prop, it's not that big of a difference for the last few weeks. someone may disagree, so feel free.

for your next cycle. it's all about what you want to do. i personally love dbol. all the suggestions before mine are great ones. you can't go wrong with any of them. IMO, if you're looking for mass, keep it simple and do the bread and butter(dbol1-4, test 1-12, deca 1-12) just be prepared for bloat. if you don't want too much, run adex @ .25mgs/ed or so. you can play with that adex midcycle to suit your needs unlike aas.

 

[rochard]

I love the test/deca/d-bol stack, I done it for me second and third, great gains from both, about to hit another one. Just make sure to have plenty of arimidex on hand and clomid.

 

[macgyver]

I know you guys know what you're talking about, but I really only want to add one compound to my test, as I progress to each cycle. That way, I know which ones cause what sides for me. In this case, would you add the dbol or deca to the cycle, and at what doses? I heard dbol would be around 25-30mg, and deca at around 300 e/w. Am I close? Thanks.

 

[GreasyGreek]

I would run this per week:

Test 600 mgs
EQ 400 mgs

 

[needsize]

personally if I wax only going to add one, I would go with the dbol as I get my best gains from that one. The crappy thing is that you only want to run the dbl 4-5 weeks, where as the deca you could run the whole time

 

[macgyver]

If I ran deca, would 300 be a sufficient dose?

 

[neurotic]

My first was 750 test enan (only) for 10 weeks, nothing else. I am considering a combo or either test/dbol, test/eq, or test/dbol/eq. I had no gyno problems at all from just the test, and gained about 20 lbs.

The high estrogen levels that stem from such a high testosterone dosage need to be controlled with Arimidex in order to avoid prostate problems in the future (BPH and/or prostate cancer).