who else gets the pre-shits lol

A cheap great pre work out is 400mgs of caffeine in tablet form and around 300mgs of DMAE. You can buy both in pill version. And it works damn near as good as a pre work out. Those pre work out drinks are nice but when you think about it. They are a rip off. You can just buy the bulk ingredients for cheaper.

Go on supplementwarehouse mad. They have a bunch of whole jars of "knock off" pre workouts for like 8 bucks. I have got a c4 knock off with same ingredients for 7.99.
 
Where can I get eca stack? Research chem sites?

OTC from the pharmacy for the ephedrine. Ask for bronkaid, it's like 5 $. They will ask for your license and they will put it on record how many you bought(you are only allowed to buy a certain amount per month since people make meth from it i think) Then head over to the supplement section and grab some generic caffeine tablets for another 5$ and throw in some aspirin if you want. It's that simple. Extremely effective for appetite suppression, energy and motivation. EC stack is amazing. It also has a fat burning effect because it works as an agonist in the beta receptors.
 
Since when? I heard about some shortage, that might be related. I haven't used it for years. I saw some on ebay the other day.
 
It was banned in 04 but they rescinded the ban a few years later. Now its just hard to find since alot of the bigger nutrition stores don't carry it
 
Just do what i do ... Freebase jack3d

That way it doesn't need to be digested goes straight to the bloodstream via the lungs
 
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