DragonRider said:"then something is SERIOUSLY wrong!!"
And here is where the problem comes in. My first cycle ever was 500mg a week of sust and 400mg a week of deca. I literally could not tell any difference between being on cycle and off. No strength gain whatsoever.
Some people respond better than others.
I don't see any difference till I'm at 1g a week.
By the way, I trained naturally for 24 years before my first cycle, so maybe age is a factor.
And this is the primary reason why these boards exist IMO. There is never going to be a perfect answer for everyone. We can only make suggestions based on fact and real world experience. Everything plays a factor in this game (which is no game by the way)!