im curius as to why most ppl on this board rip on universal and animal products .........ive used animal stak, m-stack, and love the animal pac vitamin/mineral supp plusi've used alot of there other supp's and all i get are awesome results......i admit there over priced but if you know were to shop u can get them at resonable prices like at www.bodybuilding.com. hell i even did an mstack and stack at the same time along with the universal isostack (which is another methoxy) and put on 15 lbs in 3 weeks......if u guys would be kind enough to explain to me the reasons why u claim its a scam or worthles product id like to hear why. thanks