I am 32 yrs.old now and have done about 8 cycles in the past 5 years,I am really starting to think about my overall health lately.I know 2 guy's from my gym that almost died in the past 2 years that were both juicers,they both have serious heart problems now.They are probably in their 40's,I am sure it was caused from juice.My question is,if I start doing cardio on a regular basis(I only do it now if I am in a cutting phase),like all year round,will that lower any chance of having heart problems?How much should I do,would running 2 miles,3 day's a week be enough to build a healthy heart?I don't want to over do it and start losing too much size.
Will cardio prevent heart damage from roids?
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i disagree...
cardio helps immensely... sure, you can put considerable stress on your heart from not eating right, weighing more, and not doing cardio...
it certainly wont repair any damage that has occured on cardiac tissue, but you only have one, so IMO doing any little thing to make it healthier is a high priority.... especially if your big and you take steroids
cardio helps immensely... sure, you can put considerable stress on your heart from not eating right, weighing more, and not doing cardio...
it certainly wont repair any damage that has occured on cardiac tissue, but you only have one, so IMO doing any little thing to make it healthier is a high priority.... especially if your big and you take steroids
GymLift
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Seriously monitor your blood pressure, especially when using gear. It is also important to monitor your lipid panel. High blood pressure during a cycle can significantly increase your risk of an enlarged heart (according to StoneColdNTO). This is a bad thing. Cardio is a good healthy thing, and it can bring down your blood pressure, but don't depend on cardio to protect you from high blood pressure.
And Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) doesn't do your lipid panel (cholesterol) any favors. The plague from bad cholesterol can build up over time. Best to avod the plague rather than trying to fix it later in life.
And Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) doesn't do your lipid panel (cholesterol) any favors. The plague from bad cholesterol can build up over time. Best to avod the plague rather than trying to fix it later in life.
cubanojoe
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Lets leave steroids out of it for the moment.
Lets say your 5'8 and weigh 260 pounds and 10% BF.
just getting up in the morning is a huge strain on the heart and moving that much weight all day long. Sure cardio is a good thing but if you factor everything else in, I highly dought it will prevent any heart problems in the future.
Not to mention your liver and kidneys are also taking a beating from eating that much food everyday.
Then add in the roids and whatever else and your lipid panel goes to shit and your blood pressure goes up. Hopefully it does not go up to dangerous levels and should always be monitored.
Lets say your 5'8 and weigh 260 pounds and 10% BF.
just getting up in the morning is a huge strain on the heart and moving that much weight all day long. Sure cardio is a good thing but if you factor everything else in, I highly dought it will prevent any heart problems in the future.
Not to mention your liver and kidneys are also taking a beating from eating that much food everyday.
Then add in the roids and whatever else and your lipid panel goes to shit and your blood pressure goes up. Hopefully it does not go up to dangerous levels and should always be monitored.
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putin
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Now that's an overstatement, "liver and kidneys are taking a beating from eating a lot of food everyday". Last time I heard nobody died of eating a lot of healthy food, or has gotten kidney or liver damage.cubanojoe said:
Getting up in the morning is a huge strain on the heart? I think what he should be worried about is his lipid profile, because that is the number one killer. Nothing like having your arteries full of clog, especially the heart.
needsize
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I've been on almost continually for the past 4 years, and just had an ecg done on my heart in this past year, and everything was normal except some slight enlargement, which she said was normal for bodybuilders. And I dont do cardio at all unless contest dieting
But that being said, I'm sure some mild cardio every week would help to keep it healthy
But that being said, I'm sure some mild cardio every week would help to keep it healthy
mr.universe
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I agree...
A little bit of cardio never hurt anybody.
daan69 said:
I agree...
A little bit of cardio never hurt anybody.
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putin
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The only thing I've heard is people who eat less live longer. I've heard nothing about having mass and living longer or shorter, so we can just leave that out.mranak said:
GymLift
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I'm not leaving it out. But I also recognize that we probably don't have a ton historical data because 300lb men of mass/low bf% are realatively new compared to the long life expectancy of humans.putin said:
Bodybuilders tend not to live as long as people of normal weight. Many of us here have observed this. Maybe it is the food, maybe it is the steroids, maybe it is the mass, or maybe it is all of the above.
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SomeBloke
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hi guys, pharmacist. (not being a hero, just saying)
for the most part, the damage you will do to your heart from being on roids will come from heart enlargement (ventricular wall thickening, and overall stretching of the walls of the heart) as well as the damage done your arteries by having high cholesterol (it makes them thicker, and less stretchy, meaning that they dont have the 'give' that they ought to have, meaning that overall, blood pressure will tend to spike/rise more easily)
another source of damage is having high electrolytes (mainly due to estrogen) which will in turn give lead to holding more water, which again will lead to having high blood pressure)
so. what will cardio do? itll improve oxygen delivery (which is good, so that your heart has an easier time of things when demands are placed on it) and will hopefully keep your bodyfat in check (which hopefully will bring your triglycerides and cholesterol down, which as we discussed earlier, will therefore mean that arteries etc wont get as hard...this is good) cardio will also likely maintain healthy blood flow to the heart tissues itself, which is a good thing, and will help decrease the chance of occluded vessels leading to a heart attack.
im sure there are a few more benefits i could think of, but my sleeping pill is kicking in, meaning im jelly in a few minutes
so someone remind me to come back and edit this.
overall though, cardio is a good idea, though controlling your blood pressure and cholesterol is even better.
cheerios
for the most part, the damage you will do to your heart from being on roids will come from heart enlargement (ventricular wall thickening, and overall stretching of the walls of the heart) as well as the damage done your arteries by having high cholesterol (it makes them thicker, and less stretchy, meaning that they dont have the 'give' that they ought to have, meaning that overall, blood pressure will tend to spike/rise more easily)
another source of damage is having high electrolytes (mainly due to estrogen) which will in turn give lead to holding more water, which again will lead to having high blood pressure)
so. what will cardio do? itll improve oxygen delivery (which is good, so that your heart has an easier time of things when demands are placed on it) and will hopefully keep your bodyfat in check (which hopefully will bring your triglycerides and cholesterol down, which as we discussed earlier, will therefore mean that arteries etc wont get as hard...this is good) cardio will also likely maintain healthy blood flow to the heart tissues itself, which is a good thing, and will help decrease the chance of occluded vessels leading to a heart attack.
im sure there are a few more benefits i could think of, but my sleeping pill is kicking in, meaning im jelly in a few minutes
so someone remind me to come back and edit this.overall though, cardio is a good idea, though controlling your blood pressure and cholesterol is even better.
cheerios
cubanojoe
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Of course cardio is a great thing to do, but the subject was "Will cardio prevent heart damage from roids". Maybe it will lesses it a bit but no matter what lifting heavy weights will cause some type of damage to the heart. This is no to say you are gonna have heart problems or that it can not be reversed when you stop lifiting heavy wieghts.
I agree about the heavy weights...why do you think that Arnold S. after his heartsurgery must do higher reps,in the 10-15 range?
Also,the human body was not designed to have alot of muscle well above your natural genetic limit and to cosume alot of calories.
There is also evidence that people who eat less are living longer...So if you are following the bodybuilding lifestyle you have a shorter lifespan.
Also,the human body was not designed to have alot of muscle well above your natural genetic limit and to cosume alot of calories.
There is also evidence that people who eat less are living longer...So if you are following the bodybuilding lifestyle you have a shorter lifespan.
Bruce Banner
G.F.H.
I strongly belive that cardio can be very helpful for overall health even in the bodybuilding community.
/Bruce
/Bruce
