I ran it at 100mg ED oral for 4 weeks. I think it really helped give me a a hard cut look. My joints started to hurt at the end. And it fucked up my AST, ALT and LDL. The cholesteral came back to good rather quick, the liver values got better but not to the desired range. However when I was younger I used to drink heavily and used alot of hard drugs I dont know if maybe I did some permanent damage to my liver.
PS I did not drink or use for several years before the winny.