Hi, im able to get my hands on a good 8 to 10 week cycle of winstrol. I weight 180 and height is 5 11 lifting experience is 4 in a half years. Some of the things that im worried about with taking any steriod period is either increased hair growth or loss of hair growth. Another would be water retention, im not really a water retention fan. So i was seeing what others would say i would see for results. I know alot of peeps are going to say yea yea cycle with test or whatever but i dont got the money and there 2 alot of water retention will be an issue. So i was just wondering what others would say i would get as far as results go for a winstrol only cycle. Please reply if u can help me THANKS!!!
Winstrol only cycle
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StoneColdNTO
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gareth1978
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Depends what you define as results. You aint gonna pack on 20lbs of muscle like you could with a test only cycle. But sure, you may put on 6-8lbs, I can't say for sure because I've never run Winstrol (winny) alone. As for the hair loss, are you genetically predisposed to MPB? If you're not, then you don't have anything to worry about. If you are, then I don't think you wanna be running Winstrol (winny), as I think it's quite harsh on the hairline (from memory). I think the unwanted hair growth issue is a bit over exaggerated, from the many cycles I've done I've only noticed a few extra hairs on my shoulders... and they may have come along on their own accord anyway, but maybe I have been lucky.
My advice... if you're looking to gain some serious mass, run test enanthate for 12 weeks at 500mg/week, along with arimidex or letro to kill the bloat - and it will, you don't have to worry about water retention. Don't waste your first cycle on something as weak as winny.
Also, I remember having all these fears about side effects when I was running my first cycle... maybe I have just been lucky, but I think they're quite exaggerated. I haven't suffered many noticeable sides at all.
My advice... if you're looking to gain some serious mass, run test enanthate for 12 weeks at 500mg/week, along with arimidex or letro to kill the bloat - and it will, you don't have to worry about water retention. Don't waste your first cycle on something as weak as winny.
Also, I remember having all these fears about side effects when I was running my first cycle... maybe I have just been lucky, but I think they're quite exaggerated. I haven't suffered many noticeable sides at all.
gareth1978 said:
if he uses amiridex or letro he wont make some serious gains with only 500mg of test. alot of the gains from test initially is water, which sometimes is a good thing. he doesnt need to use drugs that he doesnt need to use. if theres no problem with bp or gyno, there is no need to use arim or letro.
gareth1978
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He said he isn't a fan of water retention. Are you suggesting he won't hold water on 500mg/week of test?phatboy said:
1st cycle, 500mg test, 0.5mg arimidex/day, 12wks... I will guarantee at least 12lbs of solid muscle, assuming he eats/trains/rests correctly.phatboy said:
goreman84 said:
How many calories are you taking in per day? At 180 pounds at a height of 5'11'' I definitely think you have room to grow without the need for AAS. I'd be concerned that if you ran a cycle with your current diet it would prove to be a waste. Please provide some more details. Age?
roccodart440
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Aboot said:
ALOT of room to grow without AAS. Winsrol only especially with your nees sounds like a real bad idea.
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yankeesuck
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Winny doesn't have the bloat and isn't harsh on the hairline at all ...If I am wrong about that please tell me?
Also - He said clearly that he isn't a fan of water retention, he doesn't have the funds to do anything but a Winstrol (winny) cycle and he wants to know what gains (if any) he'll see on a Winstrol (winny) cycle. I'd be curious to hear if anyone has done one of these cycles before.
Also - He said clearly that he isn't a fan of water retention, he doesn't have the funds to do anything but a Winstrol (winny) cycle and he wants to know what gains (if any) he'll see on a Winstrol (winny) cycle. I'd be curious to hear if anyone has done one of these cycles before.
gareth1978
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I am starting to lean towards the other guys now... this guy has been training 4.5 years, and only weighs 180lbs at 5'11, but doesn't have the money for a test only cycle (and test has to be one of the cheapest Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) around)... something doesn't add up. Obviously he hasn't been able to afford enough food over this 4.5 years also! Either that, or something has gone wrong along the way.
My advice... post your diet and routine... this seems to be where you need to concentrate right now, I'm sure we can offer some good guidance.
My advice... post your diet and routine... this seems to be where you need to concentrate right now, I'm sure we can offer some good guidance.
winstrol
it seems that you and me had the same problem.
I didnt have enough money , and the best i could do on my first cycle is either winstrol (british des yellow ones) or dbol and i decided to go on the winstrol because of the reasons you have mentioned.
because it was my first cycle i grew 12 pounds (6 kilos) in 100 pills total
5 mg each.
i was pretty happy with result and lost some body FT%
it seems that you and me had the same problem.
I didnt have enough money , and the best i could do on my first cycle is either winstrol (british des yellow ones) or dbol and i decided to go on the winstrol because of the reasons you have mentioned.
because it was my first cycle i grew 12 pounds (6 kilos) in 100 pills total
5 mg each.
i was pretty happy with result and lost some body FT%
I'm just finishing a 6 week Winstrol (winny) only cycle, 210lbs ~9%BF, added about 10lbs muscle, getting nicely cut, my only side was facial acne, gonna get my BW done when i'm finished, my goal was to cut done, which it is going along nicely, its done what i wanted it to, I have problems with Blood pressure, so i thought this cycle I wouldn't use test, no probs with BP
but Winstrol (winny) ain't the cheapest, and I found it harsh on the old libido, if ur gonna do more then 6 weeks get BW done half way through, take liver protectants/detox, don't want to screw the rest of ur life up 2 look good
oh yeah and cheers every1 on this board, all ur info/experiences/opinions are great and well appreciated
but Winstrol (winny) ain't the cheapest, and I found it harsh on the old libido, if ur gonna do more then 6 weeks get BW done half way through, take liver protectants/detox, don't want to screw the rest of ur life up 2 look good
oh yeah and cheers every1 on this board, all ur info/experiences/opinions are great and well appreciated
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coloradosteve
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yes you could do Winstrol (winny) cycle, but test is a nice addition to Winstrol (winny) in that it Winstrol (winny) is not so nice on the joints (the only side I have on winny). letro will stop test bloat.
Stone
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Bro, speaking from experience you will not enjoy a Winstrol (winny) cycle. Even though it doesn't give the same feeling as a deca cycle, it killed my desire for sex just about the same. Also the joint pain/dryness is a bitch. It'll hinder your lifts because they can become so painful you don't want to do certain excercises.
And if you can afford 10 weeks of winstrol, then you can affor 25 weeks of test. It is much more reasonably priced and the results will be much better.
As for water retention, I don't think anyone is a FAN of it, some like the percieved quick gains simply not knowing they are water. But who want to bloat up just to lose it after? Like what has been posted above, test doesn't bloat as bad as many AAS, and a good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will take care of the rest. You'll be much happier with a test/arimidex cycle than Winstrol (winny) for a multitude of reason (basically any one that you can think of).
Feel free to ask questions, as a nooby I had the same stigma surrounding test. Thinking it would cause all these sides and whatnot. But from experience, I can tell you it is one of the least for causing any sides for me.
And if you can afford 10 weeks of winstrol, then you can affor 25 weeks of test. It is much more reasonably priced and the results will be much better.
As for water retention, I don't think anyone is a FAN of it, some like the percieved quick gains simply not knowing they are water. But who want to bloat up just to lose it after? Like what has been posted above, test doesn't bloat as bad as many AAS, and a good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will take care of the rest. You'll be much happier with a test/arimidex cycle than Winstrol (winny) for a multitude of reason (basically any one that you can think of).
Feel free to ask questions, as a nooby I had the same stigma surrounding test. Thinking it would cause all these sides and whatnot. But from experience, I can tell you it is one of the least for causing any sides for me.
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