1st post- intro and question...

[sceagacros]

Hello, I'm 44 been lifting seriously for over a decade and 12 weeks ago made the jump to "the dark side" as my love affair with oral designers had progressed to the point that I thought it wise to find a healthier way to go about my anabolic adventuring.
I started @ 500mg/wk of test-E , kicked it up to a gram a week at the 7th week and added 600mg/wk deca at week 9 while lowering test to 750 and adding proviron and adex.
I'm loving being on and have made the decision to blast and cruise (figuring cruise would be 250-500/wk test-e) indefinitely as my libido and quality of life had noticeably changed prior to use.
My question is: how effective would it be to continue my current stack and then switch to low test (300-500mg/wk), masteron (400mg/wk) and tren-e (low dosed @ 200mg/wk) in early spring then cruise through summer? At my age is this moronic?
I know that first cycles are usually less but quite honestly with all the designer oral cycles I've done test-E @ 500mg/wk didn't really seem like all that (and I gave it a full 7 weeks before upping the dose).

 

[sceagacros]

Oh, and I'm also taking Dbol @50mg/ED but when that runs out I won't be using Dbol again as it really doesn't seem to add enough to justify liver risk and the whole point of switching to "real" gear as opposed to legal designers was to prevent liver issues. The Proviron @ 50/mg ED (100mg Sat & Sun - hey it's my days off and I'm enjoying the hell out of being a beast in the bedroom) is fantastic and as I understand it not a liver risk at all. I've been running .5mg adex EOD too.

 

[DADAWG]

i know you think im being a hard ass but im just telling the truth .

you sound more like a dumbass teenager than 44 years old . thats the most fucked up cycle plan ive seen in a while and i see a lot of fucked up plans. i dont give a shit what kind of " designers orals lol " you have taken thats way to much gear for a 1st real cycle.

your 44 years old and unless you are planning to start now and make a professional by the time your 50 i suggest you pay more attention to your health.


back off to 500-600 mg of test a week with adex and proviron if you like and stop after 12-15 weeks . if your natural test isnt fried for life run pct.

 

[MeatHead96]

Listen to dawg. Good advice. And welcome to ology. Slow down and learn from others. The choice to blast and cruise is not to be taken lightly.

 

[sceagacros]

Well, thanks for taking the time to answer- I do appreciate it and I did ask if it was moronic so no, I don't think you are being a hard ass. I'm somewhat commited to seeing my current stack through another 6 weeks or so but will consider adjusting the doses downwards.
Thanks again for your frankness.

 

[DADAWG]

Well, thanks for taking the time to answer- I do appreciate it and I did ask if it was moronic so no, I don't think you are being a hard ass. I'm somewhat commited to seeing my current stack through another 6 weeks or so but will consider adjusting the doses downwards.
Thanks again for your frankness.

dont run orals over 6 weeks . deca is a long ester and needs 12 weeks MININUM to really kick in .

you dont have the basic knowledge about steroids you need to have before using steroids.


dont be that guy . you know hes the one in the news who cries about how steroids ruined his life but the truth is stupidity ruined his life.

 

[sceagacros]

Dbol is 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, Deca is planned for 12 weeks (MINIMUM). Would consider bringing dose down from 750/600 (test/deca) to 500/300 but understood that 2mg per Lb (I'm 5'11'' 265-70) was Ideal with deca. I appreciate your responses, although I don't claim to be an expert I do think that I've presented myself as less knowledgable than I am in the interest of brevity.

 

[Teutonic]

your gonna wind up as fucked as me

 

[DADAWG]

your gonna wind up as fucked as me

the difference is hes got vets telling him different but he wont listen.

 

[heavyiron]

Hello, I'm 44 been lifting seriously for over a decade and 12 weeks ago made the jump to "the dark side" as my love affair with oral designers had progressed to the point that I thought it wise to find a healthier way to go about my anabolic adventuring.
I started @ 500mg/wk of test-E , kicked it up to a gram a week at the 7th week and added 600mg/wk deca at week 9 while lowering test to 750 and adding proviron and adex.
I'm loving being on and have made the decision to blast and cruise (figuring cruise would be 250-500/wk test-e) indefinitely as my libido and quality of life had noticeably changed prior to use.
My question is: how effective would it be to continue my current stack and then switch to low test (300-500mg/wk), masteron (400mg/wk) and tren-e (low dosed @ 200mg/wk) in early spring then cruise through summer? At my age is this moronic?
I know that first cycles are usually less but quite honestly with all the designer oral cycles I've done test-E @ 500mg/wk didn't really seem like all that (and I gave it a full 7 weeks before upping the dose).

Looks pretty aggressive for a first oil cycle. I would like to see you get a full blood panel and lets see what this is doing to you. If everything is in range and you are absolutely sure you want to blast and cruise then at least get physicals and blood work on a regular basis brother.

 

[sceagacros]

@ DADAWG: Not sure where you are getting that I'm not listening. I fully appreciate that your patience with noob ineptness has obviously worn thin, but I assure you that I'm listening and genuinely open to constructive criticism.

@ HEAVYIRON: thank you sir, I am currently educating myself on how to get this done cheaply and anonymously.


I've decided based on the responses to my posts to reduce my doses to 500 test/300 deca continuing with 50 mg ED proviron and .5 mg EOD adex. Will this still be effective after about a month @ significantly higher doses? I'm hesitant to just drop the deca entirely as I'm fast approaching the point where the effect should begin to become apparent. Thanks everyone for your replies I appreciate any and all feedback.

 

[Lapple]

Bro, do yourself and your body a favor and go read HeavyIron's thread on First Cycle guidance.

Bottom line is you are throwing in so much shit, if there are problems you won't have a damn clue what's causing them. Keep it simple bro, give your body a chance to react and then go from there.

 

[China_Wall]

wow... dbol 4wks on/4wks off??? where the f**k did u come up with that? and upping your test e to a gr per week on the 7th week of a first cycle??? did u realize that the test e was only just starting to kick in at week 4 or 5 so u didn't even give that dose a chance to be effective... another nit-pik... proviron 50mg per day, but 100mg on weeks haha come on... it doesn't work like that, it's not viagara bro (helps libido, but not on the day u take it!

it's not a race... slow it down... or just continue on your path and u might not make to 50

sorry for my bluntness, it's just who I am

 

[sceagacros]

Bro, do yourself and your body a favor and go read HeavyIron's thread on First Cycle guidance.

Bottom line is you are throwing in so much shit, if there are problems you won't have a damn clue what's causing them. Keep it simple bro, give your body a chance to react and then go from there.

Thanks for the link, after reading it I'm realizing that my test dose has pretty much mirrored the more aggressive tapered up cycle listed there (differing in my going up to a gram then down to 750 in stead of vice versa) It would seem then that the major issue triggering the responses I'm getting would have to be that I've thrown Deca in and at a high/med dose.

At this point I would really just question:

Is my lowering doses to 500/300 a complete waste after being around 750/600 for a 3-4 week period? Would the Myostatin issue limit the options to continuing at current dose or stopping entirely and starting from scratch after a suitable PCT or cruise period?

Thanks for the insights

 

[sceagacros]

wow... dbol 4wks on/4wks off??? where the f**k did u come up with that? and upping your test e to a gr per week on the 7th week of a first cycle??? did u realize that the test e was only just starting to kick in at week 4 or 5 so u didn't even give that dose a chance to be effective... another nit-pik... proviron 50mg per day, but 100mg on weeks haha come on... it doesn't work like that, it's not viagara bro (helps libido, but not on the day u take it!

it's not a race... slow it down... or just continue on your path and u might not make to 50

sorry for my bluntness, it's just who I am

I've dropped the Dbol entirely after posting here and the reactions. I swear I can feel the difference in proviron dosing from weekday to weekend doses - It obviously could be placebo though, you've definitely given me food for thought with that one.

 

[China_Wall]

I've dropped the Dbol entirely after posting here and the reactions. I swear I can feel the difference in proviron dosing from weekday to weekend doses - It obviously could be placebo though, you've definitely given me food for thought with that one.

good to hear about the dbol... take in all the info u can from this site... lots of good people on here with some solid experience/knowledge to send u down the right path