2ND Cycle Test E, Deca, D-bols
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what are you stats, goals?
what did you gain from your first cycle? whats your diet like?
i would not do dbol for more than 4 weeks at your planned dose. i would also recommend sticking with 500mg/week of test.
and make sure you have everything on hand before you start your cycle!
what did you gain from your first cycle? whats your diet like?
i would not do dbol for more than 4 weeks at your planned dose. i would also recommend sticking with 500mg/week of test.
and make sure you have everything on hand before you start your cycle!
i would try to find tabs or caps for your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct) if you can. and try torem for your post cycle therapy (pct). no issues with it and 19nors, and it is way better than clomid in my opinion, try it out. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is dirt cheap to make. like DIRT cheap. some of these sources make so much money on that stuff it is crazy, seriously.
i really don't think you need to kickstart with prop and dbol. that's a lot going on, the dosing is going to have your levels pretty weird as you get started. like i said, a lot going on. just keep it simple. and you don't need to run at least 650mg/week of test just because you're running some deca.
600mg of test per week is plenty for you. personally i like caber, but prami works fine as well. like i said though, i'd go with tabs or caps if you can, but that's just my opinion. if i ever have a choice between a cap or a liquid version of anything i choose the caps. unless the dosing is too high and i would want to split it up. but usually with caps they dose pretty low, and with tabs you can cut them up.
do a search for torem from manpower, i bet you'll like it better than clomid and/or nolva.
i really don't think you need to kickstart with prop and dbol. that's a lot going on, the dosing is going to have your levels pretty weird as you get started. like i said, a lot going on. just keep it simple. and you don't need to run at least 650mg/week of test just because you're running some deca.
600mg of test per week is plenty for you. personally i like caber, but prami works fine as well. like i said though, i'd go with tabs or caps if you can, but that's just my opinion. if i ever have a choice between a cap or a liquid version of anything i choose the caps. unless the dosing is too high and i would want to split it up. but usually with caps they dose pretty low, and with tabs you can cut them up.
do a search for torem from manpower, i bet you'll like it better than clomid and/or nolva.
check your pms
when i said Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is dirt cheap to make, i just meant like for the people selling it.... it is a dirt cheap drug in reality, but people mark it up insane.
i guess my point with the test was there is pretty much no point in doing more than 600. rather than peace of mind, it will only give you added potential for sides. more test, unused test, converting to estro, means finding your zone on Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will be harder, etc. etc. there is literally no reason to run 700 or even 650. if you were 110kg plus at your height and bf% then you might have a reason.
my thoughts anyway. if a dosage worked for you once, you don't have to automatically increase it the next time. in fact, you should try not to and see how well it works for you. i understand your added thoughts because of the deca, though with caber or prami that shouldn't be an issue. but i still understand the worry of it being an issue.
when i said Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is dirt cheap to make, i just meant like for the people selling it.... it is a dirt cheap drug in reality, but people mark it up insane.
i guess my point with the test was there is pretty much no point in doing more than 600. rather than peace of mind, it will only give you added potential for sides. more test, unused test, converting to estro, means finding your zone on Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will be harder, etc. etc. there is literally no reason to run 700 or even 650. if you were 110kg plus at your height and bf% then you might have a reason.
my thoughts anyway. if a dosage worked for you once, you don't have to automatically increase it the next time. in fact, you should try not to and see how well it works for you. i understand your added thoughts because of the deca, though with caber or prami that shouldn't be an issue. but i still understand the worry of it being an issue.
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