3yr str8 High cycles now script TRT ?

[barrysanders]

First, I want to disclose I compete as many if you know. Thus, please don't you my cycles if they come out as your own.

I just came off for about 2 months to get blood done and TRT (gel). Now I need to get
Back on ASAP for upcoming shows at EOY.

Question 1- I know how long certain compounds stay in your system for detection. However, is that the same amount of time for it to get out of your system for test levels. Meaning, can I come off tren,mast,deca 2/3 weeks before my next doc visit and my levels would be flat again so he doesn't remove
The script or know I'm on the next time he takes blood work.

2- prescription shots vs gel?

 

[barrysanders]

Fyi: just picked up my prescription gear. $10 for 1200mgs of test. Not bad. Retail price for canister $512.

 

[chankle]

First, I want to disclose I compete as many if you know. Thus, please don't you my cycles if they come out as your own.

I just came off for about 2 months to get blood done and TRT (gel). Now I need to get
Back on ASAP for upcoming shows at EOY.

Question 1- I know how long certain compounds stay in your system for detection. However, is that the same amount of time for it to get out of your system for test levels. Meaning, can I come off tren,mast,deca 2/3 weeks before my next doc visit and my levels would be flat again so he doesn't remove
The script or know I'm on the next time he takes blood work.

2- prescription shots vs gel?

Addressing question 2 there's no data saying one is superior to the other. General thoughts listed below
1. Gels peak in the morning and trough at night. Thus, following the circadian rhythm of normal T production. Does this matter or make people feel better? We don't know. Higher DHT levels with gels due to the presence of 5-AR in the skin. Previously under estimated risk of transference to GF, kids, family, etc. Gels don't tend to work as well in the obese population which I'm sure you're not.

2. Shots - higher peak levels = higher risk of polycythemia and higher E2 conversion, doesn't follow circadian rhythm, cheaper than gels, no risk transference, once weekly cypionate or enanthate provides superior therapeutic levels than Q2 weeks. More consistent blood levels as absorption of gels can vary day by day based on application and activity.

 

[barrysanders]

Lol, I'm getting some messages about how low my levels were. Let's just say I wasn't that smart
About it. Let's just say below 100. However, for some reason sides never bother me high or low.. At least not that much.

So I went from 2grams for
A long
Time to zero cold
Turkey

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Either jump on T at 120-175 mg a week and plan on being on TRT or if you want to try and recover you probably can. Probably have to run high doses of HCG for 6-9 months though.

Need to make sure your hematocrit is not out of control.

 

[barrysanders]

Nah bro not time to recover yet maybe in a few years.

Any thoughts on the question above
Though with the timing ?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well the doc probably isn't testing you for deca or mast so that shouldn't matter.

I think 2-3 weeks is a little short and your T levels may still be elevated.

 

[barrysanders]

Yeah, I was thinking same thing. The goal is to try and get them around 600 or below by that time. I'll just have to test it out and see what happens.

 

[halfwit]

Yeah, I was thinking same thing. The goal is to try and get them around 600 or below by that time. I'll just have to test it out and see what happens.

It depends on how high of a dose you're on before coming back down. Anything less than a gram comes pretty close to TRT levels in 4-5 weeks, but beyond a gram will take another couple weeks IME.

Mast/tren/deca don't really impact a hormone panel for TRT purposes. Deca does aromatize a little, so estradiol might be a little higher if you don't account for it. I've gone in quite a few times while on multiple compounds and TRT doses of test without any problems at all.

Just be mindful of liver/kidneys/bp if he checks them as they do have an impact on those values.

I recommend getting a private test a week before your appointment to be really sure you're gtg. If you still pop high, you still have time to slide your Dr appt out another couple weeks to be on the safe side.

My .02c

 

[barrysanders]

^^^good solid advice . I was thinking the same thing about having a private test a few weeks before.