50mg drol 50mg dbol together....too much?

[jozifp103]

Gonna be bulking in a few months. Ran liquid dbol @50mg on my last bulk....decent but not overly impressed. Now have EP dbol and EP anadrol. Have enough to run both @50mg for 4 weeks. I've heard many cases of people doing them together at those doses, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's smart. I want to hear others' takes on it. Doable...or too much for the liver?

***assuming I'm taking 1800mg NAC per day.

 

[Repo]

They are both Class II steroids and don't have the synergistic effect of stacking with a class I steroid
such as Anavar.

The theory of classifications is that - Class I steroids bind to the androgen receptor and Class II steroids do not.

From what I've seen, you are best to run both dbol and anadrol at a half dose if you are going to mix the two
together... because the effectiveness will not double with these two.

However I haven't seen this from personal experience... and tend to say, screw the theory and run stuff at whatever
dose I wan't, as long as it's somewhat reasonable... I just won't tell members to do the same.

But I know you buddy... you can run it as high as you want, just keep us posted.

 

[halfwit]

Yeah.....

 

[jozifp103]

They are both Class II steroids and don't have the synergistic effect of stacking with a class I steroid
such as Anavar.

The theory of classifications is that - Class I steroids bind to the androgen receptor and Class II steroids do not.

From what I've seen, you are best to run both dbol and anadrol at a half dose if you are going to mix the two
together... because the effectiveness will not double with these two.

However I haven't seen this from personal experience... and tend to say, screw the theory and run stuff at whatever
dose I wan't, as long as it's somewhat reasonable... I just won't tell members to do the same.

But I know you buddy... you can run it as high as you want, just keep us posted.

Yeah.....

Ok, 2 conflicting ideas. That was expected lol.

@HW, so you think this is 100% too much and totally not worth the liver stress?

 

[snowpatrol123]

If it were me I'd run the dbol alone, for 4-6 weeks at a comfortable dose for you (it's never comfortable for me), take 3-6 weeks off and then drol @ 100mg/d for 6-8 weeks.

I've seen them done together (I believe in injectable form, actually) but it's not typical

 

[49ER]

No such thing as too much lol you'll be fine most guys at more advanced level take 150-200 drol and dbol is up there too but I hate dbol anyway 4 weeks ain't shit if your healthy

 

[49ER]

May as well use SD it blows both drol and dbol out the water insane gains in 4 weeks may as well be worth the liber toxicity wich isn't gonna hurt you anyway liver repairs fast if your healthy

 

[halfwit]

Ok, 2 conflicting ideas. That was expected lol.

@HW, so you think this is 100% too much and totally not worth the liver stress?

No such thing as 100% certainty in this game, but I know I'd split the stack myself. Some guys can get away with really abusing their bodies for a period of time and bounce back like nothing happened.

Then there's the rest.

You can try to play it by ear, but some symptoms of serious liver distress don't pop up until it's too late. Grey poop and extreme pain under your ribs on the right side being examples. I'd at least get a blood test 4 weeks in so you KNOW if your body is able to play nice with the drugs.

 

[halfwit]

No such thing as too much lol you'll be fine most guys at more advanced level take 150-200 drol and dbol is up there too but I hate dbol anyway 4 weeks ain't shit if your healthy

Come on 9'er, that's borderline irresponsible brother. I don't know about you, but I don't want young kids that happen to be lurking to think it's okay to pop 100mg of dbol - to find themselves in the ER.

 

[jozifp103]

Thanks all! I have some thinking to do...

Also just remembered PSL carries TAD-600. I feel this would be hugely beneficial if I decide to do this.

 

[49ER]

Come on 9'er, that's borderline irresponsible brother. I don't know about you, but I don't want young kids that happen to be lurking to think it's okay to pop 100mg of dbol - to find themselves in the ER.

Do you know anyone that has gone to the hospital on dbol? It's a hormone not aspirin or narcotics 50mgs is that really safer? I'm more concerned they'll get bitch tits not end up in the hospital anadrol has medical uses too shits safe only worrys are high bp let's not demonize hormones save that for dnp and zanax that everyone brags about

 

[Megatron28]

Do you know anyone that has gone to the hospital on dbol? It's a hormone not aspirin or narcotics 50mgs is that really safer? I'm more concerned they'll get bitch tits not end up in the hospital anadrol has medical uses too shits safe only worrys are high bp let's not demonize hormones save that for dnp and zanax that everyone brags about

There are lots of guys that have had to go to the hospital due to using AAS.

 

[49ER]

There are lots of guys that have had to go to the hospital due to using AAS.

I don't believe it I know there's a ton of guys that use narcotics and drink that end up in the hospital. You have to be responsible using aas high doses are not out of the norm but you have to give up the other shit too many party guys try to do both and that's when it becomes dangerous. No one here is gonna convince me my organs are superior, I abused alcohol and narcotics in my past and that I know for a fact did damage to my organs

 

[49ER]

Did I mention I love you Halfwit?

 

[halfwit]

Do you know anyone that has gone to the hospital on dbol? It's a hormone not aspirin or narcotics 50mgs is that really safer? I'm more concerned they'll get bitch tits not end up in the hospital anadrol has medical uses too shits safe only worrys are high bp let's not demonize hormones save that for dnp and zanax that everyone brags about

What do you think makes orals toxic? It's not the hormones, it's the modification to the hormone to make it so it does something when you ingest it.

You kind of answered your own question; if anadrol is used as a medicine (just like acetaminophen), too much can cause more harm than good. I've personally had to be treated for an overdose of acetaminophen (known as APAP with narcotic pain relievers), which bypasses the first run of the liver in the same exact way.

This is why NAC is so beneficial, as it helps restore glutathione, which is responsible for liver regeneration that methylation destroys.

I'm the last guy to demonize AAS as it has changed my life for the better in every single way, but there still is the need to be responsible with its use.

 

[halfwit]

Did I mention I love you Halfwit?

I love you too, just gotta be the voice of reason sometimes.

 

[49ER]

I just realized I've been juicing less than 3 years when I saw my join date! I swear it feels longer I've always thought it was longer too my anniversary is coming up

 

[Pacific Rim]

25mg of each works for me.
I find 50mg dbol gives me too strong of a pump and 50mg anadrol hurts my stomach.

I tried splitting them over the years and it helps.

 

[Russel17401]

I just realized I've been juicing less than 3 years when I saw my join date! I swear it feels longer I've always thought it was longer too my anniversary is coming up

You've only been on gear for three years? From reading a bunch of your posts I would have guessed at least ten years. Did you just start off with tren or do the same 1st cycle that is recommended? For that short of time you sure have gotten a lot of experience with a lot of gear! I'm impressed

 

[Repo]

Here's to helping the guys reading halfwit and 49er's posts to give you a little direction...

One of the rules in my life is... "first learn the rules - then break'm."

Halfwit is always going to give you a solid foundation... "the rules."

Once you understand the rules (then, and only then) - you can break'm... which puts you into 49er's camp.

I tend to push the limits... but I know the foundation of the rules... and know what to expect as I step out side
of them... this is while taking a scientific approach... as I create my Frankenstein cycle.