Tren Ace/NPP combo. NOT FOR BEGINNERS

[jozifp103]

Ok first off, beginner cyclers ignore this thread.

Ok, so I've made a few threads in the past regarding nandrolone/tren combos. I still haven yet to embark on this journey but the time is coming near.

My plan is to run:
EP Test prop - 700mg
EP NPP - 700mg
EP Tren Ace - 700mg
EP Test Base - 100mg PWO (here and there on high volume days)


Other stuff:
Gray tops or Eurotropin HGH - 5iu
EP T4 - 100mg (to combat T4 depletion from HGH)
EP Cialis - 5mg
EP aromasin - 20mg


Maybe toss in an oral kicker and finisher. (Dbol/drol/M1t/Superdrol)

MAYBE....slin....maybe

Length undetermined but it's going to be a short but HARD bulk.

My goal is to eat anything and everything in sight and hit training volumes I've never reached before. I want to gain as much size as possible. My hopes is that by keeping the cycle short, I can run higher doses and be loose with my diet without committing long enough to see substantial fat gain.

I decided to add the tren because I like the way tren makes me look. Whether bulking or cutting, it just makes you look amazing. I tend to get a softer look when bulking....especially with nandrolones...they blow me up but make me look soft. I'm hoping the tren will help keep me looking hard.

Thoughts on my theory regarding short/high dosed blasts and avoiding fat gain? also has anyone utilized NPP and Tren together and had great success?

 

[blakey]

Yeah brother can the orals i reackon its a good cycle the myth you can't run 2 nan nandrolone based oils at the same time was de bunked years ago sounds great to me i just got of the tren after a few weeks now running npp then back to tren for the end of cycle my doses are smaller but its going to be a long cycle switching between fast acting compounds

 

[blakey]

And if you're going to use an oral why not use d bol pre workout instead of test sus ??? Ive never used bol myself but i took oral trest pre workout and Jesus that and a pre workout shake feeling like a beast

 

[tbonexl]

If it's your first run with tren and deca (npp) I would keep test low. 150mgs-200mgs per week. I've ran tren and deca before and started out with high test. Well, the short of it is I dropped test down and everything else was manageable. Should be ok for 8-10 weeks with this.

 

[jozifp103]

Yeah brother can the orals i reackon its a good cycle the myth you can't run 2 nan nandrolone based oils at the same time was de bunked years ago sounds great to me i just got of the tren after a few weeks now running npp then back to tren for the end of cycle my doses are smaller but its going to be a long cycle switching between fast acting compounds

And if you're going to use an oral why not use d bol pre workout instead of test sus ??? Ive never used bol myself but i took oral trest pre workout and Jesus that and a pre workout shake feeling like a beast

Dbol is certainly not out of the question....I included it in the list. I'm certainly not running all those orals together if that's what you're thinking lol. Those are just the orals I have on hand to choose from.I have injectable trest ace but that wouldn't kick in quick enough for a pre WO. I'd love to give oral trest a shot. What's the general consensus on the toxicity of oral trest?

If it's your first run with tren and deca (npp) I would keep test low. 150mgs-200mgs per week. I've ran tren and deca before and started out with high test. Well, the short of it is I dropped test down and everything else was manageable. Should be ok for 8-10 weeks with this.

Yes, would be first time running them together, but have plenty of experience with them individually. Never had prolactin dick....only had leaky nips once on tren but prami took care of it. I'll consider your advice on keeping the test low.

So how did you fair with the tren/deca stack? Was it as magical as one might imagine? Thanks brother.

 

[49ER]

I would change it to 1400mg tren ace and take out the NPP

 

[Epic Ed]

I ran a tren/deca/test cycle about 5 years ago. It wasn't easy but the sides were manageable with prami. Forget doing any cardio, though. I got pumped brushing my teeth.

 

[blakey]

Dbol is certainly not out of the question....I included it in the list. I'm certainly not running all those orals together if that's what you're thinking lol. Those are just the orals I have on hand to choose from.I have injectable trest ace but that wouldn't kick in quick enough for a pre WO. I'd love to give oral trest a shot. What's the general consensus on the toxicity of oral trest?

Yes, would be first time running them together, but have plenty of experience with them individually. Never had prolactin dick....only had leaky nips once on tren but prami took care of it. I'll consider your advice on keeping the test low.

So how did you fair with the tren/deca stack? Was it as magical as one might imagine? Thanks brother.

Sorry brother should of chosen my words better
Just ment that if you're thinking of running an oral why bother pinning the suspension preworkout if you're pinning all short esters give yourself a brake from the stabbing and fuck the suspension off replacemed with d bol because you were thinking of running it anyways.

The oral trest wasn't to bad i ran it for about 8 weeks pre workout while pinning trest ace in the morning but at the end i did have some nice blackish blue rings around my eyes so guessing my kidneys were under a bit of stress but it subsided after stopping for a day or 2 so nothing to bad no bloods though so dunno what my kidney levels were at or liver vals but nothing to hectic im guessing

 

[Teutonic]

Forget doing any cardio, though. I got pumped brushing my teeth.

LMAO---nice summation and wrap up if Josepi react s like WE did..(test-e or c @ 1k- deca @ 1k and d bol @ 100 a day till I d run out )
Never was tren around when I ran more cc s than dollar s I could scratch in a week but yeah.
Back pump s so bad u d have to sit down...from STANDING.

This cycle d KILL A NEWBIE LOL , but I m anxious to hear your still here bro. Ur gonna need a wider car lol.
Slin huh ?
Anavar Annie s threatening to try it and she s growing at alarming rate with out it..
I m "not knowing" about that AT ALL...but a lot of younger dude s at my Power Gym are toting cooler s so....

(when I ran that stack at the blood drive at Ole Miss the RN saw me stagger past winded from my book bag and said "U look u could
spare a pint ?" " Ma am if u put my blood in someone they ll start holding water get painful erections and stay mad..."
"Oh..obviously...right..)

 

[tbonexl]

If it's your first time running both, treat it like a first cycle. Just run tren/npp with test. It can get wild with just that so no need to add more stuff to it. You can in future cycles. Think about it; your running two strong 19 nors together. You don't need anything else..