Adding tren ace to first test e cycle

Tren is pretty much a BBer competition compound. most of us that use it dont even really need it. with proper diet 90% of us could get away with just test.
 
So oak if I wanted to through anavar into my cycle how would I do it? Can add it in week 7 and run it all the way through 12 and then discontinue it with the test and continue with post cycle therapy (pct) as normal? And how much should I take per day? You've got me on the edge now I'm either goig to through in anavar or tren If it's not too late for anavar I guess I'll do that.
 
dont disregard DPR-he knows his shit and has been in the game a looooong time.

if you run var its preferable to run 7 weeks. you can run it right until the day before post cycle therapy (pct). 50mg would be a good starting dose but if you can afford it 75 wouldnt hurt. running right up to post cycle therapy (pct) will serve as a nice bridge during those 2 weeks your not pinning your test.
 
And I Want weight i want to hit 210 I'm 192 I want to be 210 and pretty damn solid. I want to be able to bench a well a lot more for fitness testing so i was hoping to hit 300 and I want to be bigger but still able to run like a horse. Basically I'm hoping for another 15-20 pounds and some more strength and speed and hardess.
 
Var will also give you a nice effect on collagen, i think it increases synthesis by like 320%

Var is KNOWN for its strength gains, especially in high doses. if you want weight just stop eating carrots and shit and eat steak and potatoes and pasta every meal. your breakfeast meal is the only one i like for a bulk. the rest of the shit is pretty much just snacks.
 
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No no I didn't mean to disregard. Sorry I will add more to my food intake I just want lean gains. So I can buy var run it 75 a day for the rest of my cycle til post cycle therapy (pct) and do post cycle therapy (pct) as normal and I'll be good? Will this give me any size or strength?
 
No no I didn't mean to disregard. Sorry I will add more to my food intake I just want lean gains. So I can buy var run it 75 a day for the rest of my cycle til post cycle therapy (pct) and do post cycle therapy (pct) as normal and I'll be good? Will this give me any size or strength?
yes

lots of strenght minimal size, but the test will give you size bro. var will make you strong and the synergistic effect will will make you pack it on, as long as your eating. remember when on test your not human, so you have to eat even more than what is considered alot when your not on.
 
Ok I will be doubling up my meals. I just don't know anything about anavar so before I put it in my body I'm just seeing what's up with it. So why isn't it more popular if it is so safe like It seems almost too good to be true strength fat loss and u can run it right up wil pct? Doesn't it have any I'll effect on the body?
 
thats why var is so expensive cause the sides are very minimal. its not very toxic on the liver like most orals. it does not aromatize either.
 
me sleepy, crASHING............................

Pussy! Real men are either on the bench or on the felt all day every day sheeeeeit you guys act like sleep will help you get big or something I don't have time for no fucken sleep in my life

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50mg a day should be fine.

Like everyone else is saying, you have to eat more. Don't be so concerned about whether the weight gain is fat / water / muscle. I promise you that if you eat good meals, and large ones, your bench will hop 100lbs while on test.

It wasn't until week 8 that I started realizing that I wasn't eating enough. Once I started eating more, I almost increased my bench by 80lbs by the end of week 12. Imagine if I would have ate right from the start...
 
Thanks bro I ate a lot more today. I doubled my meals basically. And I will hopefully start gaining more. Good advice. And that won't be too low on the var?
 
People will tell you that 75 is the best to cruise at, but if you're getting gains with the 50, I always like to choose the lowest dose for the best results with the least sides.
 
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