allergic to test e

racerx said:
You are wrong. It's the oils. Some companies use sesame oil, which some people do not tolerate. Any compounding pharmacy will know this. Injection site pain is one thing. An allergic reaction that makes it hard to walk for 3-4 days, accompanied by extreme pain, mild fever, and inflammation is another story.

what is it then. i couldnt tolerate the oils.
 
joshhutch said:
what is it then. i couldnt tolerate the oils.
I've done several cycles with brand name test and never had any problems except a couple minor painful injections which were very bearable. Once i had some test I got from a compounding pharmacy and the first injection was what you described...a bit more than just a painful injection. Then, 3 days later on the second injection, I realized this was a major problem. I had to take deep breaths to get into my car. i couldn't sleep on one side because my ass hurt too badly. I took it back to the pharmacist and he said it was the oil they used and it's fairly common that some people just can't tolerate it. He switched oils, re-made it and everything cleared up and was fine. So there's a difference between a painful injection and an allergic reaction. You decide which is your issue.
 
racerx said:
You are wrong. It's the oils. Some companies use sesame oil, which some people do not tolerate. Any compounding pharmacy will know this. Injection site pain is one thing. An allergic reaction that makes it hard to walk for 3-4 days, accompanied by extreme pain, mild fever, and inflammation is another story.

No, I'm not wrong. Take any of those oils and inject 1-3mls by themselves with no gear mixed. Guess what, no pain, no sickness, no irritation. Ive done this with several different oils.
Now try a small amount of BA and BB added. Guess what, no pain, no flu, maybe a small itch.
Now add test. here comes the pain, the flu, and the irritation.

Don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about. You are just repeating what you have read.
How do you have a clue on what type of oils different companies use. You don't, because they don't tell you. And you can inject tren from the same lab that you inject test and maybe the test only hurts like a bitch. Did the company switch oils? No!

Its the test molecules and the esters. You don't have to believe anything I say. But I will tell you that I make all of my own gear. I have a cabinet full of different oils, solvents, and raw powders. No matter how I mix it, test hurts at least half the time I inject. When I add extra oil to my syringe and when I take the time to heat it up I never feel pain. I do not have any of these problems with tren or EQ no matter what my recipe is.
But don't take my word for it. Try it yourself.

And to the guy who started this thread. It wasn't just me. You didn't respond to anyone suggestions then you say your gonna use slin.
If you are using as much gear as you say you are then maybe you are injecting too much at one time. But who knows, you never said how much you were injecting. Anothter trick is to split the injection in two or even three. Like 1ml in the ass, 1ml in the quad and 1ml in the pec.
I'm telling you this from much experience. I see people on this site everyday complain from the same exact thing (funny how it its always test). its not the oil dude! You have to try different methods to make it work good. You can't just inject 5mls of test in one spot and feel like shit everytime you do it and go "oh well I geass my gear sucks, or my oil sucks" I inject test prop ED and sometimes it still trial and error. I have talked with pros and guess what, they say the same thing. They have little tricks that help them get past the pain of test and sometimes it just doesn't work, they still get sick. Its part of using steroids.
I am saying all of this because there is a lot of misinformation out there about injection pain and sickness. And there are people everyday writing to this forum because they have so much pain that they think they have an abcess.

Its not the oils, its not the solvent, its the test and the esters.
 
mustanged77 said:
No, I'm not wrong. Take any of those oils and inject 1-3mls by themselves with no gear mixed. Guess what, no pain, no sickness, no irritation. Ive done this with several different oils.
Now try a small amount of BA and BB added. Guess what, no pain, no flu, maybe a small itch.
Now add test. here comes the pain, the flu, and the irritation.

Don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about. You are just repeating what you have read.
How do you have a clue on what type of oils different companies use. You don't, because they don't tell you. And you can inject tren from the same lab that you inject test and maybe the test only hurts like a bitch. Did the company switch oils? No!

Its the test molecules and the esters. You don't have to believe anything I say. But I will tell you that I make all of my own gear. I have a cabinet full of different oils, solvents, and raw powders. No matter how I mix it, test hurts at least half the time I inject. When I add extra oil to my syringe and when I take the time to heat it up I never feel pain. I do not have any of these problems with tren or EQ no matter what my recipe is.
But don't take my word for it. Try it yourself.

And to the guy who started this thread. It wasn't just me. You didn't respond to anyone suggestions then you say your gonna use slin.
If you are using as much gear as you say you are then maybe you are injecting too much at one time. But who knows, you never said how much you were injecting. Anothter trick is to split the injection in two or even three. Like 1ml in the ass, 1ml in the quad and 1ml in the pec.
I'm telling you this from much experience. I see people on this site everyday complain from the same exact thing (funny how it its always test). its not the oil dude! You have to try different methods to make it work good. You can't just inject 5mls of test in one spot and feel like shit everytime you do it and go "oh well I geass my gear sucks, or my oil sucks" I inject test prop ED and sometimes it still trial and error. I have talked with pros and guess what, they say the same thing. They have little tricks that help them get past the pain of test and sometimes it just doesn't work, they still get sick. Its part of using steroids.
I am saying all of this because there is a lot of misinformation out there about injection pain and sickness. And there are people everyday writing to this forum because they have so much pain that they think they have an abcess.

Its not the oils, its not the solvent, its the test and the esters.
I didn't read it. I went through trial and error with it, and the guidance of a compounding pharmacist. Read my post deeper. I think I'll take the parmacist's word over the word of a guy who makes it in his bathtub. And AGAIN...there is a big difference between a painful injection and an allergic reaction which renders you incapacitated for 3 days due to pain, fever and inflammation.
 
racerx said:
I didn't read it. I went through trial and error with it, and the guidance of a compounding pharmacist. Read my post deeper. I think I'll take the parmacist's word over the word of a guy who makes it in his bathtub. And AGAIN...there is a big difference between a painful injection and an allergic reaction which renders you incapacitated for 3 days due to pain, fever and inflammation.

Your right, don't take my word for it. Your story is BS. You wouldn't even know if it was cyp or enan or the actual dosage of test. And the pharmacist would only use one oil. He would use the oil that works best. He may have lowered your dosage or the type of ester.
Read this. Its from an IFBB Pro Chyna http://groups.msn.com/theanaboliccl...essage=24811&LastModified=4675584110718180606

Just for the record, I injected test enan 3 days ago and I have a swell on my ass the size of Texas. I fell like shit. I use the same oil as for my test prop and tren ace.
I'm not telling you all this to make you look bad or give you a hard time. There is a big misconception about oil and gear and allergies and sickness.
If you stop for a moment and rethink what you have learned and look at it with some new thoughts then you just might be able to see that its the test molecues and the esters themselves.

Search this forum for people who post about injection pain and flu like symptoms. Its almost always test and sust(test combo).
 
mustanged77 said:
Your right, don't take my word for it. Your story is BS. You wouldn't even know if it was cyp or enan or the actual dosage of test. And the pharmacist would only use one oil. He would use the oil that works best. He may have lowered your dosage or the type of ester.
Read this. Its from an IFBB Pro Chyna http://groups.msn.com/theanaboliccl...essage=24811&LastModified=4675584110718180606

Just for the record, I injected test enan 3 days ago and I have a swell on my ass the size of Texas. I fell like shit. I use the same oil as for my test prop and tren ace.
I'm not telling you all this to make you look bad or give you a hard time. There is a big misconception about oil and gear and allergies and sickness.
If you stop for a moment and rethink what you have learned and look at it with some new thoughts then you just might be able to see that its the test molecues and the esters themselves.

Search this forum for people who post about injection pain and flu like symptoms. Its almost always test and sust(test combo).
clearly.
 
According to Xanthine from Bolex:

"What you are referring to is the fact that people are reacting badly to Test E available from all the UG labs. The raw material is coming from China and is what everyone (except name brand pharmaceutical companies ) are using.

It contains carbolic Acid (phenol) and is a by product of the manufacture of the ester itself.

Using Cypionate or prop is a good way to avoid it if you happen to be overly sensitive to it as many people are. You will know if you are when you get full limb swelling for 7 days, with a slight fever, intense throbbing pain and obscene edema over the entire limb, not just the site of injection.To me, it's the closest thing to having been shot. Grimacing in pain trying to get into the car.

Carbolic Acid is toxic (after the pain I was in...no shit) and should be removed before the compound is released for sale.

Obviously when the manufacturer is selling out the back door to UG labs or legitimately to Vet suppliers...it's like a meth head complaining to a meth lab about purity. They couldn't give a shit and what are you gonna do about it?"
 
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