An injectable thats 1) good for joints 2) no deca dick 3) good gains
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Mr. Humdiddly
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EQ is good for the joints. Stack it with some prop. Should meet your criteria.
sith_lord
New member
True. Its just that when you take the testosterone injections over 200 mg / week then collagen synthesis is decreased. Hard for me to decide on my first injectable.
Mr. Humdiddly
Knowledge Receptacle
First cycle? Just do Test E and forged joint repair. Why all the stress?
Greazy-Pickle
Senior Member
Deca or NPP with the proper weapons and correct test/nandro ratio..
hockeyfan2185
lifter
x2...run some caber at .5 E3D and u wont have deca dick...and smooth lubed joints...ohhh and caber makes u a horny beast
Italiano SPO
La possiedo il figlio
x2...run some caber at .5 E3D and u wont have deca dick...and smooth lubed joints...ohhh and caber makes u a horny beast
Cabaser did nothing for me. I've found Pramipexole to be more effective when using Tren/NPP/Deca. Since this is first cycle, I wouldn't recommend anything other than Test your first go round.
RockG
New member
I agree , first Cycle Test E should do, I still often do just Test E Cycles and get good solid gains without too many sides. Its always good to have some anciliarys on hand but ussually with test e only 12 week cycle I don't have any sides and keep the gains with good PCT regiment.
sith_lord
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Would you please explain in full detail or send me a link that can help? Thank you!
sith_lord
New member
Cannot run test as my first injectable... it is all in my head that I cannot have decreased collagen synthesis.
So the pramipexole helps with libido and good erections?
Italiano SPO
La possiedo il figlio
WTF? Dude, you need to get your head straight. You are going to do what you want I see and not take solid advice from us. What do we know...we've only been doing this for years. Best of luck. I'm not going to advise you further or condone you doing anything other than Test only for your first cycle. If someone else wants to advise you to stack multiple things first go round, your blood is on their hands. Peace bro.
Greazy-Pickle
Senior Member
have to agree.. didnt see that this was your first cycle.. besides that if your looking to avoid deca dick your on the wrong road.. test should be the base of every cycle..
WOW... This guy obviously has joint issues...
What are your joint issues? WHy do you think you have decreased collagen synthesis?
How old are you? Do you compete...?
In some circumstances it is imperative to deviate from the first cycle recommendation of Test only. NOT EVERYONE'S CIRCUMSTANCES ARE BLACK AND WHITE MY FRIENDS.
More information is needed....
FYI--- No matter what route you go you HAVE TO RUN TEST IN ANY CYCLE. IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF ANY CYCLE.
What are your joint issues? WHy do you think you have decreased collagen synthesis?
How old are you? Do you compete...?
In some circumstances it is imperative to deviate from the first cycle recommendation of Test only. NOT EVERYONE'S CIRCUMSTANCES ARE BLACK AND WHITE MY FRIENDS.
More information is needed....
FYI--- No matter what route you go you HAVE TO RUN TEST IN ANY CYCLE. IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF ANY CYCLE.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
I agree 10000%
bro 300mg test for 12 weeks and throw in 40mg ed of anavar for the first 8 weeks if you really need to.
but honistly TEST IS BASE OF EVERY CYCLE and if your NOT gonan use it dotn use steroids.
you DO realize that test has ALOT of health benafiets aswell right?
even if yo u only use a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) amount liek 100-250mg ew YOU USE IT or dont use NOTHING.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
ALSO i rec forged joint support.
its good stuf and will be good for you.
link: Forged Joint Repair
Forged Joint Repair
its good stuf and will be good for you.
link: Forged Joint Repair
Forged Joint Repair
sith_lord
New member
Sorry let me resay that I will do a test injection that is 200 mg per week but not more because of the decreased collagen synthesis.
Thank you for your advice though it is appreciated.
sith_lord
New member
I have done dianabol and anavar cycles with good results.
I have bad AC joints and some adductor muscle problems occasionally.
I am interested in running deca + test prop + dianabol. In order to prevent deca dick, could I use just 200 mg of test prop per week?
sith_lord
New member
Definitely not a lost cause. I am learning a lot and really appreciate your guys advice. I am not ignoring it -- I know you guys are the experts but I am trying to find the answers that I need.
In time, I may be the one helping someone in the same situation as I was in.
Thanks again.
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