anabolics or peptides???

[gypsyluck]

greetings community,

recently i had started planning a cycle starting march 1st. thought the best place to start was read the administrators notes, and start with his advice. i started reserching accessibility to all the gear i need and found a couple of well known sources, i was stoked! i decided to create a new thread and run my finding by some of the bros on here and get it all dialed in. i di that, and got some great advice and positive feedback. all was set...

being the thirsty-for-knowledge-type, i continued my reserch...hmmm, what are these petide things all about? well, fuck. i got an answer that still has me betwixed.

after spending hours and hours everyday for the past week researching anabolics and stacks and diet and proper cycles PCT etc, i stumble onto the peptide world and holy shit, i think im more confused than i was before i started, hahahahahaha! but this is good, knowledge is priceless, but now, i really need some input on all this again, so i can make the right decisions and get the most out of whatever i decide on doing-anabolics or peptides??????!!!!!!!!!

ive been looking at CJC1295, AICAR, IGF-1 DES, GW501516, sustanon 250, cypionate, deca, anadrox, avidex,clomid...i count these names and more i cant even remember now, instead of sheep when i go to bed at night...

im 36 yrs old 6'3 195 lbs, this will be my thrid or 4th cycle, with many years in between cycles...when responding to this thread, assume that i am autistic, and really suck at math as well...so in other words-keepit simple for me guys

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

i assume you would say steroids or peptides... cause both are anabolics.

 

[gypsyluck]

yes sir. any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

[DaHurt]

Sooooo input on what? What is your question? If it is steroids or peptides in general, the answer of course is both. We need more info though. What were those previous cycles and what are your goals, etc?

 

[gypsyluck]

whats up dahurt-well, i guess i was wondering what to go with...aas or peptides, but the answer is both?
hahaha! more answers lead to more questions oke, well, my goal is become bigger, stronger & faster...maybe even smarter...but the last ones not that important i was going to run a sust 250 cycle for 12 weeks, & do the post cycle therapy (pct) as others suggested...but then i started reading up on peptides, and it seemed like they might be easier to get and possibly work just as well??? im open to either or both so long as they yield good results that i can keep, & i dont have to pin myself more than eod...

 

[gypsyluck]

my first cycle was cypionate, i was very young and dont remember the dosage, im sorry...
the second cycle i got these little pills, i was told to eat 6 at a time idk what they were called, this was like 10yrs ago...then deca w test suspension...

my third cycle was about a year and a half ago, it was cypionte and 4test i started w 1cc of each per week and went up to 2cc's wk of each, for two months...no post cycle therapy (pct)-didnt even know about post cycle therapy (pct) till a few weeks ago. all i know is that i really want to do things correctly this time...

 

[DaHurt]

& i dont have to pin myself more than eod...

Well that is going to eliminate most peptides...

But if you can get over that, IGF-DES would be great to start with, along with your 12 week sus cycle. 50-100mcg pre-workout pinned intramuscularly in the group your training. Cycle 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off.

You can also inject subQ if you prefer, as it will go systemic anyways, but IM gives you great pumps

 

[gypsyluck]

very kewl! oke, so... how does this sound...

i go w sust 250, eod 1/2 cc(125mg) and ramp it up from there...do i take the igf-des on the same days as the sust250 pin??? should i throw anything else in the mix or just go with these two until after my cycle?-then PCT...

 

[OmegaReign]

you will have to pin the sust and the igf on the same days sometimes, just depends on how you lay it out. Just go with these two for now. If you want you can add in some ghrp-6 or 2 and mod-grf, pinned 3x a day @100mcg each.

 

[gypsyluck]

i pin the sust and igf on the same dys some times, if its a workout day, right?

 

[gypsyluck]

im gonna start a log when i get all my gear together & im ready to roll...!

 

[hard2gain]

No offense but if your gonna run a cycle you need to go up to 500mg/wk. We just had a guy on here that was convinced he could get big from 250mg a week and was all pissed off thinking his pharm grade gear was under dosed because he wasn't gaining shit. Trust me 250mg/wk is a waste of time and isn't worth shutting yourself down over.

You're question shouldn't be peptides or steroids it should be which peptides with steroids. AAS and peptides are two completely different things that will yield different gains. You will notice a hell of a lot more with AAS over peptides but the peps are still a very good thing to have in your arsenal. Peptides might only add 2lbs in a cycle but they are keepable gains. This is why a lot of people like running them during cycle then again in pct, they feel it helps keep AAS gains.

This is what I suggest for you....
test E 500mg weeks 1-12
nolva 40/40/20/20 weeks 14-18
IGF DES 100mcg bilateral pre-workout weeks 1-4 7-11 and 14-18

 

[gypsyluck]

hey bro, if i go with test e, 500mg week, do i pin 250 2x's a week??? with the nolva you said 40/40/20/20 so that means 40mg/day 2 weeks & the 20mg/day next 2 weeks right? sorry to ask im kinda new w the lingo haha! with the igf, can i just do a glute shot pre-workout???