After taking a cycle of Anadrol 75 mg better known as Oximetalon. Noticed "bitch tits" start to grow ,or swelling of the nipple. Would like to know if this is progesterone-mediated or estrogen-mediated. Started taking whatever i can get my hands on first. I got Biotest M (an over the counter anti-estrogen)from the local GNC just as a fix for now. I am thinking it is working but maybe it is just in my head. Please someone help fast. Best and easiest way to fix. Want to catch this before it is too late!!
anadrol and gynecomastia
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StoneColdNTO
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It is progesterone related..........
................now let the debate begin on what can stop it.
I would jump on some Nolvadex at 60 mg ED and see if that does anything, after symptoms subside, cut back on the Nolva for a few more weeks, say 20 mg ED....
................now let the debate begin on what can stop it.
I would jump on some Nolvadex at 60 mg ED and see if that does anything, after symptoms subside, cut back on the Nolva for a few more weeks, say 20 mg ED....
Biotest M Anti-Estrogen - Testosterone Support Formula!
M™ Anti-Estrogen/Testosterone-Support Formula is the first supplement designed to decrease estrogen and increase Testosterone, thus producing the ideal hormonal environment in the male body. The net effect is a perfect hormonal milieu for losing body fat, gaining muscle mass, and optimizing the male endocrine system.
M contains four super-powerful ingredients that synergistically work overtime to create the ultimate male body:
Trihydroxystilbene blocks estrogen at the actual receptor site in male breast tissue and other estrogen-sensitive tissues.
Tocotrienols work synergistically with estrogen blockers to dramatically increase the overall effect at the receptor, as well as through non-receptor mechanisms.
Calcium D-glucarate clears excess estrogen from the body by inhibiting the enzyme that's responsible for the activation of bound estrogen.
Vitex agnus-castus increases the natural production of Testosterone and lowers prolactin levels, the hormone that's responsible for inducing lactation (even in males).
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SUPPLEMENT FACTS:
BIOTEST M
Serving Size: 3 capsules
Servings Per Container: 20
Amount Per Serving:
Vitex agnus-castus Extract (optimized phytochemical profile): 400mg
Calcium D-glucarate: 250mg
Tocotrienols: 50mg
3,5,4'-trihydroxystilbene: 10mg
Other Ingredients: Cellulose, gelatin, magnesium stearate.
Recommended Use: As a dietary supplement, take three capsules in the morning on an empty stomach.
M™ Anti-Estrogen/Testosterone-Support Formula is the first supplement designed to decrease estrogen and increase Testosterone, thus producing the ideal hormonal environment in the male body. The net effect is a perfect hormonal milieu for losing body fat, gaining muscle mass, and optimizing the male endocrine system.
M contains four super-powerful ingredients that synergistically work overtime to create the ultimate male body:
Trihydroxystilbene blocks estrogen at the actual receptor site in male breast tissue and other estrogen-sensitive tissues.
Tocotrienols work synergistically with estrogen blockers to dramatically increase the overall effect at the receptor, as well as through non-receptor mechanisms.
Calcium D-glucarate clears excess estrogen from the body by inhibiting the enzyme that's responsible for the activation of bound estrogen.
Vitex agnus-castus increases the natural production of Testosterone and lowers prolactin levels, the hormone that's responsible for inducing lactation (even in males).
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SUPPLEMENT FACTS:
BIOTEST M
Serving Size: 3 capsules
Servings Per Container: 20
Amount Per Serving:
Vitex agnus-castus Extract (optimized phytochemical profile): 400mg
Calcium D-glucarate: 250mg
Tocotrienols: 50mg
3,5,4'-trihydroxystilbene: 10mg
Other Ingredients: Cellulose, gelatin, magnesium stearate.
Recommended Use: As a dietary supplement, take three capsules in the morning on an empty stomach.
StoneColdNTO
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drh8784 said:
I would say not.......Vitex is the main ingredient and is supposed to help with prolactin.......but if you say it's working, then who am I to say it won't work for you.
StoneColdNTO
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drh8784 said:
I was talking of the Vitex in your Biotest M.
You could always pick up some Liquid Nolva from one of the Liquid sites, you'd probably have it in a couple days....
StoneColdNTO
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drh8784 said:
go to www.researchkits.com
then click on liqiud products and you'll find that answer....................
hhajdo
Community Veteran
Take tamoxifen.
According to BigCat and a few others Anadrol can activate the estrogen receptor & it doesn't have a progestational effect....
..."However we do find medical studies looking at this possibility. One such tested the progestational activity; of various steroids including nandrolone, norethandrolone, methandrostenolone, testosterone and oxymetholone. It reported no significant progestational effect inherent in oxymetholone or methandrostenolone, slight activity with testosterone and strong progestational effect inherent in nandrolone and norethandrolone. With such findings it starts to seem much more likely that oxymetholone can intrinsically activate the estrogen receptor itself, similar to but more profoundly than the estrogenic androgen methandriol. Clearly if this is the case we can only combat the estrogenic side effects of oxymetholone with estrogen receptor antagonists such as Nolvadex or Clomid, and not with an aromatase inhibitor..."
..."But a study2 testing the progestational effects of oxymetholone and methandrostenolone against those of testosterone as well as nandrolone and its metabolites showed that the progestagenic activity of oxymetholone wasn't even in the neighbourhood of that of testosterone, let alone nandrolone..."
(2)
Desausles PA, Les hormones anabolisantes de point de vue experimental (Anabolic hormones from an experimental viewpoint), Helv. Med. Acta 1960 , 479-503
According to BigCat and a few others Anadrol can activate the estrogen receptor & it doesn't have a progestational effect....
..."However we do find medical studies looking at this possibility. One such tested the progestational activity; of various steroids including nandrolone, norethandrolone, methandrostenolone, testosterone and oxymetholone. It reported no significant progestational effect inherent in oxymetholone or methandrostenolone, slight activity with testosterone and strong progestational effect inherent in nandrolone and norethandrolone. With such findings it starts to seem much more likely that oxymetholone can intrinsically activate the estrogen receptor itself, similar to but more profoundly than the estrogenic androgen methandriol. Clearly if this is the case we can only combat the estrogenic side effects of oxymetholone with estrogen receptor antagonists such as Nolvadex or Clomid, and not with an aromatase inhibitor..."
..."But a study2 testing the progestational effects of oxymetholone and methandrostenolone against those of testosterone as well as nandrolone and its metabolites showed that the progestagenic activity of oxymetholone wasn't even in the neighbourhood of that of testosterone, let alone nandrolone..."
(2)
Desausles PA, Les hormones anabolisantes de point de vue experimental (Anabolic hormones from an experimental viewpoint), Helv. Med. Acta 1960 , 479-503
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Victorian guy
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Nolva works for me. 150mg anadrol a day...try that on for size. I wouldnt do it again, and cut back to 100, which i wouldnt maintain if I were getting gyno. Nolva- 20mg or 30mg- ought to do the trick.
It worked several times for me while I used anadrol.
It worked several times for me while I used anadrol.
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