If a feller was to take 250mcg ed for week 1, 500mcg at week 2, 750mcg at week 3(and stop?) OR run it 4 wks and at week 4 1000mcg then stop. By what week would one notice the gains? Ive also read that its highly liver toxic which I can believe without some liv52 and can cause liver failure? Has anyone ever really proven liver failure or liver problem from 4weeks of oral tren use? Or is it all a myth from arnolds day with anadrol and them guys never had proper liver supports and exceeding larger amounts of anadrol, anyways thanks guys im a newbie to the oral tren and there isnt alot of info on oral tren so Im curious Im waiting for my order and ill be running test e 600/wk 1-12 oral tren 1-3 or 4.