Anyone feel flu-like *during* testosterone cycle?

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oldfeller

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I've been feeling rather flu-like and lethargic the past 3 weeks or so when I switched over to AML gear from Medi****. I'm not blaming the gear or anything or saying anything bad, but these flu-like symptoms seem to come and go. I'm taking 500mg test-e split twice a week.

Yesterday I got up and felt great til about 5pm then felt achy all over, feverish, headache, etc...
The day before I felt great til about 2pm then felt achy all over, feverish, headache. Lasted about 3 hours then it passed. It's been random like this from day to day.. Usually feel good part of the day, and crappy for a few hours to. I was thinking maybe "test-flu" but I think that just comes once at start of cycle and you get over it right?

It's weird.. I've had the odd day in 3 weeks where I felt good the whole day, but it seems like part of the day just hits me all of a sudden and I feel like crap. Even my organs in my chest feel funny (if that makes any sense) I didn't feel this way at all when on Medi**** test-e, but I switched because I thought it was maybe bunk (no results, no sides, etc.) Maybe there's something I'm alergic to in the ester/oil? I started taking amidex (.25mg EOD) about a week ago thinking maybe estrogen was creeping up? I dunno.

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced similar.. I've been popping advil when I start feeling crappy and it seems to help.

thanks.
old feller
 
Test flu bro happens to a lot of new steroid users which im assuming you are? now I can't speak scientifically but my guess would be its because of the change in your bodies hormones and the introduction of a foreign substance, someone correct me im wrong!!! But it should pass man always has with everyone I knew never experienced it myself
 
I can relate to the achy bits for sure.
Been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for what feels like my whole life.
Every once in a while just after an injection I'll get flu-like symptoms that last up to a day.
I don't "cycle" per-se, my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) regimen was just royally screwed up with swings from 1300->200ng/dl every 2 weeks. That may have had more to do with it than anything.
 
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Test Flu - pretty common. Might be related to the oil in this new gear. Its not an infection as its likely sterile but it is your bodys attempt to up-regulate the gear and basically the absorption process is making you feel ill. Not alot one can do to avoid this aside from trying a diff product or lab. Good luck
 
I had the same symptoms as you during my last cycle but it only lasted for about 3 days. It definitely was the "test flu" in my case but I just battled through it and kept training and eating and it eventually went away. Good Luck...
 
I noticed on my cycle I was pretty achy and lethargic the day after I injected test e. I was also pretty phlemy on weeks 8 and 9 but it went away.
 
Austinite said:
Can anyone provide any information on how you came to determine that testosterone caused influenza?
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Austin, I don't have any solid sources to back me up, but I did get "sick" when I started my cycle. Sore throat, Nasal congestion, coughs, raised body temp. I don't remember ever being sick in the middle of the summer. Maybe it was something else in the mixture, I'm not sure.
 
DexterMorgan said:
Austin, I don't have any solid sources to back me up, but I did get "sick" when I started my cycle. Sore throat, Nasal congestion, coughs, raised body temp. I don't remember ever being sick in the middle of the summer. Maybe it was something else in the mixture, I'm not sure.
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Yeah I understand. I get sick, too. But it just seems that if testosterone would cause this, we would always get sick. If we experience all the other effects every single time we inject (muscle growth, strength, E2 conversion, hepcidin suppression, etc...) why not influenza? Not sure why there would be exceptions. I think people are more motivated on cycle, they spend more time at the gym (or go more often) where it's packed with contagious virus'. That coupled with UGL gear issues, sanitation, etc.. all those things make us "Cyclers" more susceptible.

Looking at testosterone, structurally and all the mechanisms it affects, I just can't see what could possibly do this. The other thing is that most folks claim to become ill almost immediately after starting the cycle. So it only takes a few days. Our serum levels haven't changed, so why wouldn't we blame the flu on our endogenous testosterone? Transdermal users never complain of the flu in relation to the compound, too.

Lastly, lot's of folks mention that for example, it only happens when they use sustanon. I can't for the life of me see why that would make a difference. The exact same testosterone in test E or C is also in Sustanon. That's why I was curious, just hoping someone might have some science behind it because I've researched and never really found any relationship between testosterone in any form, and influenza.

I honestly think it's our lifestyle that leads to these flu episodes. I believe that if we were on a forum that injects Amino Acids, we'd call it the Amino-Flu.

Anyway, thanks for the response, Dexter. I was just curious. My stance to date is that there is no such thing as "Test Flu". But always open for ideas that may change my mind.
 
I couldn't find any articles about "test flu", but i found dozens of forum thread about it. Its Interesting that so many people experience those symptoms even with test e and c. So it can't be a coincidence. Maybe it only happens with ugl gear? Bad raw materials? It can't be the actual test, since human body already produces it. Would be nice if there was a solid study on this topic.
 
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DexterMorgan said:
I couldn't find any articles about "test flu", but i found dozens of forum thread about it. Its Interesting that so many people experience those symptoms even with test e and c. So it can't be a coincidence. Maybe it only happens with ugl gear? Bad raw materials? It can't be the actual test, since human body already produces it. Would be nice if there was a solid study on this topic.
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I can accept that. Which is my point. Testosterone does not trigger influenza. Now if someone is having some sort of reaction be it allergic or otherwise to the oils, that's kind of where I lose interest because I can easily prove that. No one in the old days ever complained of the flu from steroids. This is all within the last decade or so.
 
Austinite said:
Yeah I understand. I get sick, too. But it just seems that if testosterone would cause this, we would always get sick. If we experience all the other effects every single time we inject (muscle growth, strength, E2 conversion, hepcidin suppression, etc...) why not influenza? Not sure why there would be exceptions. I think people are more motivated on cycle, they spend more time at the gym (or go more often) where it's packed with contagious virus'. That coupled with UGL gear issues, sanitation, etc.. all those things make us "Cyclers" more susceptible.

Looking at testosterone, structurally and all the mechanisms it affects, I just can't see what could possibly do this. The other thing is that most folks claim to become ill almost immediately after starting the cycle. So it only takes a few days. Our serum levels haven't changed, so why wouldn't we blame the flu on our endogenous testosterone? Transdermal users never complain of the flu in relation to the compound, too.

Lastly, lot's of folks mention that for example, it only happens when they use sustanon. I can't for the life of me see why that would make a difference. The exact same testosterone in test E or C is also in Sustanon. That's why I was curious, just hoping someone might have some science behind it because I've researched and never really found any relationship between testosterone in any form, and influenza.

I honestly think it's our lifestyle that leads to these flu episodes. I believe that if we were on a forum that injects Amino Acids, we'd call it the Amino-Flu.

Anyway, thanks for the response, Dexter. I was just curious. My stance to date is that there is no such thing as "Test Flu". But always open for ideas that may change my mind.
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I do agree with this my friend but on the flip side just because it haven't been researched and prob never will because who wants to put time and money into that doesent mean that it doesent happen. I know how I felt the last time I was on Sustanon (sust) and I didnt actually get the flu just felt like shit like the flu for a couple of days. And I was on pharm grade. I'm going to run a Sustanon (sust) bulker from ugl in the fall season so I'm interested in what happens
 
Manski said:
I do agree with this my friend but on the flip side just because it haven't been researched and prob never will because who wants to put time and money into that doesent mean that it doesent happen. I know how I felt the last time I was on Sustanon (sust) and I didnt actually get the flu just felt like shit like the flu for a couple of days. And I was on pharm grade. I'm going to run a Sustanon (sust) bulker from ugl in the fall season so I'm interested in what happens
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It certainly does actually. I can look at influenza and testosterone individually and make an assessment of no relation. Anyone can, actually.

I am always willing to change my mind, but I need science, not coincidence.
 
can attest to this too.. i NEVER get sick. first cycle i did got sick for 24 hrs with flu like symptoms. did a few cycles in the following months and years, nothing. after taking a break for a couple of years, same thing happened when i started on first cycle again. maybe it's all coincidence? just find it odd that twice , both in about a week in both times had same thing happen. maybe a good subject to research :)
 
An ester is the result of a chemical reaction where structures are modified, not something you can have an allergic reaction with. Oils used to suspend the steroid is another story.
 
Ah yes, oils is what I had read about, thanks. It was years ago, but I remember the flu after each dose.
 
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