chopadeamus
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ok kewl yea like i said dude i got high bp so i would start low then increase if anything....so would i need to take aromasin along with the cycle? cause i heard estrogen bloat can cause high bp...
anyonee know if there's a test that wouldnt raise blood pressure a significant amount
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ok kewl yea like i said dude i got high bp so i would start low then increase if anything....so would i need to take aromasin along with the cycle? cause i heard estrogen bloat can cause high bp...
Italiano SPO
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There's no telling because everyone is impacted differently. What I will say is that if you're going to run any type of AAS, have the proper ancillaries on hand just in case you need them. It's a bitch if you develop a problem and then have to wait to order something and get it in the mail after the fact. The fact you already have high BP, I wouldn't mess around and risk not having everything I need before starting so to answer your question.... I'd have Aromasin on hand. I don't think you need to have Letro on hand if you're going to run a small amount of Test but if and when you get into cycling, Letro is a must for anyone to have on hand.
chopadeamus
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ok kewl thanks, if i do cycle it will be late this year or next year.. you recommend hcg? and do you take aromasin on the 2 week to the end? sorry if im annoying you with dumb qestions .
First off chop, where is your blood pressure? and what meds are you taking for it?
The truth of the matter is, if you have anything under 140/90, you are just fine. 150/95 and above is where symptoms of high blood pressure show up. 180/110 is where you need to see a doctor.
If your testosterone is low, and you raise it up to normal levels, there is a chance your blood pressure will actually get lower. This is also the case with blood sugar.
Going on a mild, 400mg a week of test cyp. cycle probably won't elevate your blood pressure all that much, but towards the end of my first cycle, my blood pressure became hard to control.
The bad news about high blood pressure meds, they almost always increase the chance of erectile dysfunction, and a simple water pill can make your dick simply not work, even with a tab of levitra.
Read up as much as you can and look up the term hypogonadal,
The truth of the matter is, if you have anything under 140/90, you are just fine. 150/95 and above is where symptoms of high blood pressure show up. 180/110 is where you need to see a doctor.
If your testosterone is low, and you raise it up to normal levels, there is a chance your blood pressure will actually get lower. This is also the case with blood sugar.
Going on a mild, 400mg a week of test cyp. cycle probably won't elevate your blood pressure all that much, but towards the end of my first cycle, my blood pressure became hard to control.
The bad news about high blood pressure meds, they almost always increase the chance of erectile dysfunction, and a simple water pill can make your dick simply not work, even with a tab of levitra.
Read up as much as you can and look up the term hypogonadal,
chopadeamus
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my bp was always around 165/99 to a 100 and im on the first bp meds ever made lol Inderal..cyp better than test e? yea i hear ya about ED i dont have a problem there id say bad blood circulation if anything im gonna start buying ginseng and make a decoction everyday.....and chael sonnen ufc fighter has hypogonadism and is on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) ...but i will look into it thanks
rocko3927
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atenolol 25mg ed and lisinopril/hctz 20/12.5 mg ed. i would say that it's a moderate dose of bp meds. my brother and dad , whom never have used as, are on higher doses. no problems with erictle disfunction either. however it can be a side from bp meds.
chopadeamus
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how old are you rocko if you dont mind me asking?
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750mg of Sust.
Italiano SPO
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Are you an MD? This is not what doctors or the American Heart Assoc are telling people these days. You might want to educate yourself a little more on hypertension before giving advice as such.
Pre-Hypertension is now Systolic 120-139 or Diastolic 80-89. Hypertension Stage 1 is Systolic 140-159 or Diastolic 90-99. Hyptertension Stage 2 is Systolic 160 or higher or Diastolic of 100 or higher. Numbers of 180 or higher for Systolic or 110 for Diastolic are what's called a hypertensive crisis and you need emergency care ASAP. Telling someone when there BP is 180/110 is when they need to see a doctor is absurd and retarded. At that point, you're a ticking time bomb and could kill over any minute.
chopadeamus
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lol i was wondering the same cause i was 165ish over 100 and my doc said i need bp meds even at this stage blood vessels can rupture in the brain etc....
Italiano SPO
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Dude, that guy is an idiot. High BP is not something you take lightly, which is why they call it the silent killer. If he did the smallest of research, he would realize his advice was garbage. You can find anything you want on the subject on a lot of medical websites, specifically the American Heart Association website. I'm glad you figured that out though.
chopadeamus
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i agree high bp is nothin to play/joke around with....symptoms are next to none so people go with out noticing they have it!!!yea thats why i keep asking about stuff on here googling doesnt give me any 100% answer's,and id rather take advice from a guy like you thats knows what to do rather than a guy that has never done it but still has an opinion that is non correct!!! thanks Italiano SPO
pandawithcancer
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I agree with you about that guy being a jackass.
And yes, consult your general practitioner about HRT.
I don't think you posted your Test levels? what are they? And your Blood pressure is pretty high man. I'd be careful. Personally, I wouldn't fuck with test if my diastolic was at 95. Your hearts going to overwork
chopadeamus
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yea good thing i know about bp....yea i asked my doc about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but she said it wasnt low enough it ws 21 but should be at 25 for my age...weird blood test level's here in canada ...but i am on blood pressure med's....think test will put it in overdrive?
pandawithcancer
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Yeah that is weird. I have no idea what the #s 21 and 25 correspond to. I read blood panels that measure testosterone in Ng/dl
average test levels in men range from 250-1200ng/dl typically. But honestly, it depends on the person. Testosterone can cause the blood to be more viscous *which will make it harder for your heart to pump and will lead to increased systolic blood pressure* That's about all I am aware of in terms of testosterone linking to blood pressure. All i know is before I took my first cycle my Bp has always been 118/76 ish. After my first cycle it jumped to 140/80. that was a real scare for me..and I've taken more precautions for future cycles. Such as frequent blood testing, seeing an endocrinologist/TRT *not using UGL gear*, and taking baby asprin to keep BP lower.
chopadeamus
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yea see when i get my results i dont get the ng/dl only my doc does....im gonna ask next time...another guy also told me that test does make the blood a lil thicker...so baby aspirin would be good,i bought some ginseng so im a make some decoctions for a bit and see if that boosts it a lil bit....you know anyone who has done tribulus terrestris? some people say it works and some dont lol so im thinking might just be a waste of money!!
pandawithcancer
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I'm not expert of tribulus, but i'd have to say it's crock shit from the results my friends DIDN'T get lol. But yeah, don't go dropping asprins daily until your doc clears it though..too much asprin could thin your blood too much and you could pretty much turn into a hemaphiliac.
I'd recommend just hitting it hard naturally and dieting well to combat the high blood pressure, and waiting to see what your doc says in regards to a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) referral. Your healths more important than some big muscles.
chopadeamus
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yea i agree i got big muscles just want a lil more test in me along with a few more lbs and shred a lil more fat off....are cutting cycles or w/e kinda similar?
rocko3927
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hey brother remember i am x military and now cut downtrees for a living and am in no way a doc or an expert but i am 39 years old.
chopadeamus
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nice nice yea but i like hearing from people who are on p med's to taking test so i can get a lil taste of what to expect right rather than my doctor that has never took it before and is just going from theory....thanks again rocko cheer's bud :]
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