Arimidex use during PCT after Tbol only cycle to prevent estrogen rebound?

[blawrence1988]

I am finishing up a 5 week Turinabol only cycle...I plan on using Tamox 30,20,20,10 and 3g/ED of DAA for PCT, Am i running the risk of an estrogen rebound if I do not incorporate an AI like Adex in there some where???

Don't come at me with the anti-oral only cycle bull*hit...injectables are hard to come by with the feds watchin down here.



roll tide

 

[Norsegod]

I'm gonna say it anyway..... Wtf?! You need test with everything bro. If you can't get out then don't do steroids cuz it'll do more harm than good.

As far as your inquiry, no adex during pct. Get some hcg and do a few blasts before pct or if you have to use an ai during pct then use aromasin.

Fuck man....

You should be fine with nolva and clomid though...

 

[blawrence1988]

yeah, i had the tbol laying around and i was tired of looking at it lol...are you aware of any RC sites that still carry hcg? I bought some from a site a year ago that worked well but I think they really started cracking down on it because I can't find anything.

 

[Norsegod]

That's against the rules.


The lion up top....I think....

 

[villan]

tbol only cycle hrrrmmm people around here need some education

 

[bonexyster]

Next time if nothing eles run some cheap dhea with a oral that's good advice a test base is needed. It's safer on your body and can double the gains for just a few bucks. And why not get Clomid instead of daa? If your already buy tamoxifen why not get clomid? And adex will do more harm then good running it with tamoxifen that will lead to zero estro and that will cost u gains ed joint pain and the list goes on. D I not use the adex.

 

[tx045]

Why run dhea with an oral? Do you think it would make that big of a difference?

 

[bonexyster]

Yes it will make a huge difference. Your body is designed to run on test not dbol. Get some injectable test, if you don't like needles then just grab some dhea, it's a non methyl so it'll be fine to run along side dbol. You'll feel more normal and yield better gains with a test base. I've not only read but first hand experienced it buddy. Test base is where the results are.

 

[tx045]

No doubt about the test. My dilemma is that I've been having what I'm pretty sure are allergic reactions to the oils. My last 3 runs I've had very bad reactions to cottonseed etc. Dont mind needles a bit actually enjoy the process. I was just wondering if the dhea would really convert or help signifficantly w test levels. I ask because I planned on taking and actually started my test/anavar cycle 2 weeks ago and had to stop due to the reactions but still plan in using the anavar. Might have to look into the suspension route

 

[blawrence1988]

wow I can't believe I've never thought of running with some dhea, I finished the cycle sunday, started nolva 40mg ed and daa ed, I just ran into a thread about Formeron...would it be useful to run formerone because of it's effect on raising T levels?

 

[Mad- scientist]

HCG first off can not be bought from legit research labs to my knowledge it is illegal for them to carry it. Also you should have a PCT of clomid at 100/100/50/50 and nolvadex at 40/40/20/20. That is the minimum requirement for a PCT I would do to recover. When it comes to running just a oral it is a bad idea your body needs your testosterone or synthetic testosterone to function 100% right.

Ive done oral only cycles before though and it wasn't the worst thing in the world. I believe it is over hyped to a degree. Their are better ways to run steroids and you should avoid oral cycles only at all cost. But I have been in the position to where I could not get steroids and I wasn't going to let that stop me so I got pro hormones. I had pretty good results with the pro hormones but they hurt my liver and made me feel pretty shitty through out the whole cycle. If I had a friend ask me about doing a oral only cycle I would tell him if he wants to feel like shit for a good month or two he can do it. But the thing is doing it myself Ive realized it is just not worth it the gains aren't that great compared to steroids also.

 

[jozifp103]

correct me if im wrong but wouldn't estro rebound not be an issue with tbol since it doesn't aromatise?

 

[tx045]

There'd be no issue w estro but the Tbol will still shut you down

 

[tx045]

When you said you felt like shit was it from a real oral only cycle or from prohormones?

 

[jozifp103]

of course. serms are definately needed for hpta recovery but an AI may not be all that necessary which i believe was his main question.

There'd be no issue w estro but the Tbol will still shut you down

 

[tx045]

You are right no need for an ai

 

[blawrence1988]

it was from real Turinabol, but because the nolva is raising my test, isnt it also raising my estro to compensate, but is that increase in estro back to normal levels?

 

[jozifp103]

i am by no means a steroid veteran but heres my opinion. since tbol doesnt aromatize and coming off this cycle your T is probably shut down, im thinking theres hardly any estrogen circulating in your system so an AI would probably bring your levels way too low. I think a more knowledgeable member could confirm this but thats what I believe.

 

[KaB_88]

Do your research bro before even considering running a cycle.. test is the base of running any cycle. You might wanna go get some blood work done honestly.

 

[blawrence1988]

Do your research bro before even considering running a cycle.. test is the base of running any cycle. You might wanna go get some blood work done honestly.

Yeah I mean I've done 4 cycles before which is a lot for only being 20 yrs old lol...i know the test base protocol logic but like i said, where I'm living, a lot of cops around, couldn't wait any longer. I anticipated being able to buy HCG online because I've done it before...but I guess they've really cracked down...but so far so good on the pct, of course I've got the weird nolva feeling and libido is pretty low, but I achieved my ideal physique, ...which is great. I probably will get some Blood work done after this week (Its spring break)...really shitty timing...cant wait to see how much weight I lose during the week of fun...