I am on my 7th wk of Axio Tren e at 400mgs wk and Axio Sustaplex at 400mg wk. I haven't cycled for a while so I usually make better gains after a layoff. However I don't seem to making any gains only up 3lbs since beginning of cycle. A cycle like this is usually good for 10-12lbs for me. Tren usually leans me out a lot. Anyone have any issues with Axio?
Axio Tren E, Sustaplex
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juced_porkchop
Moderator
the tren seems to shed of water and fat maybe your not geting the bloat you usually get with only test also the tren and test dose id go for like:
maybe :
wk1-12 300mg trenE ew
wk1-14 600mg test.
if its 3 LEAN SOLID gains then id think that to be good.
with there being say 5-8lbs LEAN at the end would be nice.
whats your stat's??
maybe :
wk1-12 300mg trenE ew
wk1-14 600mg test.
if its 3 LEAN SOLID gains then id think that to be good.
with there being say 5-8lbs LEAN at the end would be nice.
whats your stat's??
juced_porkchop
Moderator
ohh and iv used both with no issue btw
and will this fall on bulker wich i will post up soon.
ALL axio products
and will this fall on bulker wich i will post up soon.
ALL axio products
stats: 46yrs old, training 30yrs, clean diet, roughly 25 cycles, 5'7" 200lbs, not sure about %bf but I have abs and relatively lean. I have done this cycle before and gains are usually consistantly 10-12lbs. I am also taking 50mg proviron ed. I have used their products in the past with good results. Not looking to bash them by any means.
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Kane_Red_Machine
Guest
among tren-e i trust. ( i'm a usual tren-man)
EFP ( but it hurts in some batch... )
Golgen-gear OTC usualy no source.
sciroxx, i've seen the results... i have to admit it worth a trust. i have it. but realy i hate dark vial
Endosyn... not easy to find.
black-widow just starting... but good IMO
ROHM local UK not easy to find and it's 100mg/ml
UK-labs. too expensiv; but it works.
wildcat local UK to. excellent.
Gen-shi but it small vials. i admit it's a bit expensiv; but correctly brewed.
tren-a give good feedbacks from almost hall brands.
forget diamond; or balkan... diamond was good. was... balkan. i have it. i doubt to lot. i let it; and as far as i heard about. i was right.
BD doesn't exist... let it.
what about Axio... huuummm never used them; i got some of their ancient stuff in beginning of 2008. was good. ( gift to friends... usual for me to give sometimes.)
but this one. could not be the same... hey hey noooo
i told since one year yet about this "clear tren" which appear everwhere.
Nooooo to make clear tren. you need specific material; and it could not stay clear ( i mean clear yellow) for all batch; but the firsts only; 200 300 vials; and after the oxidation of the impuitys starts. these impurity are harmless but 1 gramm of this oxide could make one litter of clear oil totaly orange... dark... more the time pass more it get oxidation.
So after 8 month of production of clear yellow tren from them, and geneza and some other... it makes me doubt... A lot!
I got the certainty of this. Most the labs, simply don't know how to make a stable dosage of tren-e.
and also. no-one of them knows realy how mush time it will still good; so don't give to mush attention to the expiration-date.
if you feel some gear don't works. welloftimes, it simply don't works.
EFP ( but it hurts in some batch... )
Golgen-gear OTC usualy no source.
sciroxx, i've seen the results... i have to admit it worth a trust. i have it. but realy i hate dark vial
Endosyn... not easy to find.
black-widow just starting... but good IMO
ROHM local UK not easy to find and it's 100mg/ml
UK-labs. too expensiv; but it works.
wildcat local UK to. excellent.
Gen-shi but it small vials. i admit it's a bit expensiv; but correctly brewed.
tren-a give good feedbacks from almost hall brands.
forget diamond; or balkan... diamond was good. was... balkan. i have it. i doubt to lot. i let it; and as far as i heard about. i was right.
BD doesn't exist... let it.
what about Axio... huuummm never used them; i got some of their ancient stuff in beginning of 2008. was good. ( gift to friends... usual for me to give sometimes.)
but this one. could not be the same... hey hey noooo
i told since one year yet about this "clear tren" which appear everwhere.
Nooooo to make clear tren. you need specific material; and it could not stay clear ( i mean clear yellow) for all batch; but the firsts only; 200 300 vials; and after the oxidation of the impuitys starts. these impurity are harmless but 1 gramm of this oxide could make one litter of clear oil totaly orange... dark... more the time pass more it get oxidation.
So after 8 month of production of clear yellow tren from them, and geneza and some other... it makes me doubt... A lot!
I got the certainty of this. Most the labs, simply don't know how to make a stable dosage of tren-e.
and also. no-one of them knows realy how mush time it will still good; so don't give to mush attention to the expiration-date.
if you feel some gear don't works. welloftimes, it simply don't works.
Ozzy27
Olympian Bodybuilder
Ya know....I should add that I did have an issue some months back with the sustaplex but it was from a source that no longer has anything to do with Axio products. Another source came to the rescue and worked the kinks out around this issue. All in all , it turned out I made out in the end 
If you are not happy , the problem can and will be fixed....you have my word on this!!
If you are not happy , the problem can and will be fixed....you have my word on this!!
juced_porkchop
Moderator
was it axio thow or was it a guy whom sell it and you got somthing else??. also you can check on the axio website and put in the address of the person to see if there an approved supplier.
Z had some orange crap all the time i would never use.
but the axio (and i have seen a few bach's latly) are a very light almost clear yellow.
Z had some orange crap all the time i would never use.
but the axio (and i have seen a few bach's latly) are a very light almost clear yellow.
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Kane_Red_Machine
Guest
Ya know....I should add that I did have an issue some months back with the sustaplex but it was from a source that no longer has anything to do with Axio products. Another source came to the rescue and worked the kinks out around this issue. All in all , it turned out I made out in the end
If you are not happy , the problem can and will be fixed....you have my word on this!!
i'm not an axio's user. but this info is totaly right. it's important to buy the brand from authorised resellers only.
thanx for posting this headup about it Ozzy.
