Ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin is the best OTC combination available IMO. I just buy all three seperately and combine. You may or may not want to add the aspirin. I use all three. However, others just use caffeine and ephedrine.
DIM is actually a good thing because it acts as dummy molecules for the CytP450 enzymes and they degrade those instead of the actual androgens which is good if you are on some type of test booster.
this might be the line that supp companies are selling you, but DIM and I3C are anti-androgens. And they are not substrates degradation enzymes of testosterone or DHT and quite the opposite its an INDUCER of cyp3a4 (meaning it will increase liver metabolism of most androgens).
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