last cycle i used qv prop due to its great reputation, but i also picked up 2 bottles of brovel, just to see if i could tell a difference between the two. qv was pretty painful, but i figured i was just being a pussy. switched to brovel midcycle and the injection painw as notably lessened. to be honest, my best gains came a bit after i started using brovel. when it ran out and i jumped back on qv the injection pain came back and the gains seemed to slow again. i got my shit from a legit vet source in mexico city so both were good. and i hate to be the one to disagree, but to me the difference in quality seemed clear. brovel was noticeably less painful too. it seems to have a bad rap, to where bros will avoid it like the plague. i say its probably alot of bros just jumping right on the bandwagon. i have only used qv once so im not going to say its overrated or anything, just stating my experience. next cycle is in january, hopefully. this time i will be using brovel prop so that i can get a more precise comparison between the two. who knows, maybe i just got a shitty batch of qv.