can you substitute eq for deca
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No, you cant really substitute eq for deca. Two very different compounds, and if you are looking for "deca-like" results than eq will definitely disappoint. However, eq does bring its own set of results that may be appealing. You wont get as much size or strength from eq, but what you do get will be much more "keep-able" than what you get from deca, at least from my experience. Eq will NOT make you bloat at all, and will actually help you lean out if used properly. Eq is similar to deca though in that it needs to be run for a LONG time to see results.
If you choose to go with eq you need to run it for AT LEAST 16 weeks at a dose of 600-800mg a week MINIMUM. That seems like alot of juice but trust me, any less than that and you are just wasting your money. Also similar to deca is the fact that with eq you need to run you test longer so that it has time to clear your system before you can begin post cycle therapy (pct). Run your test three weeks longer than the eq.
Good luck man, if i were you, id definitely wait for the deca, a much better compound at least to me, alot of people end up disappointed with eq. Maybe ask your guy if he has npp? gonna be more expensive than running deca but then at least youd be literally running the same compound, just a different ester attached.
If you choose to go with eq you need to run it for AT LEAST 16 weeks at a dose of 600-800mg a week MINIMUM. That seems like alot of juice but trust me, any less than that and you are just wasting your money. Also similar to deca is the fact that with eq you need to run you test longer so that it has time to clear your system before you can begin post cycle therapy (pct). Run your test three weeks longer than the eq.
Good luck man, if i were you, id definitely wait for the deca, a much better compound at least to me, alot of people end up disappointed with eq. Maybe ask your guy if he has npp? gonna be more expensive than running deca but then at least youd be literally running the same compound, just a different ester attached.
rippedliving
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You can use EQ if you need to but EQ and deca don't compare much, deca is much better overall.
SquadLeader
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Deca is much better than EQ, the gains and the health benfits make it the better choice.
Well I will say that I gained a solid 14 lbs from my Test EQ cycle. I still got some water retention even with the EQ mostly in my face and ankles. Anyways I gained close to 20 lbs but only kept about 14 lbs from my EQ cycle.
I ran Test E 700mg per week 18 weeks
and EQ at 550mg per week 17 weeks
Started PCT week 21. This time I only lost a couple pounds in post cycle therapy (pct). Which I was really happy about.
EQ is GREAT for many things. First it helps you increase hunger, gives great strength gains, increased vascularity, and just gives more stamina. I could do cardio for hours and not get tired, EQ is known to increase red blood cell production.
Another thing is EQ Is GREAT for the joints. MY whole cycle I lifted very heavy compared to normal and I did not get any injuries at all. I bulked up quite a bit people always comment I look bigger and if people notice then the gains must be pretty good.
EQ also does not cause estrogen or prolactin problems so thats another plus.
ANother thing if you only wanna run EQ 14-15 weeks thats fine you will still get good gains. 15+ is best though.
Possible side effects - acne (same with deca), anxiety (only in 750+ doses in most cases), high BP, possible libido reduction (same as deca)
those are the most common sides. However I did not have one spot of acne on me the whole cycle all I had was high BP and water retention.
Overall EQ gains look really great, nice moderate size gains, vascularity everywhere and much drier look than deca. They are different acting compounds but either option is good.
If you are looking for good strength gains, increased hunger, stamina, size then I recommend EQ as long as you can run it for 14 weeks at least.
I ran Test E 700mg per week 18 weeks
and EQ at 550mg per week 17 weeks
Started PCT week 21. This time I only lost a couple pounds in post cycle therapy (pct). Which I was really happy about.
EQ is GREAT for many things. First it helps you increase hunger, gives great strength gains, increased vascularity, and just gives more stamina. I could do cardio for hours and not get tired, EQ is known to increase red blood cell production.
Another thing is EQ Is GREAT for the joints. MY whole cycle I lifted very heavy compared to normal and I did not get any injuries at all. I bulked up quite a bit people always comment I look bigger and if people notice then the gains must be pretty good.
EQ also does not cause estrogen or prolactin problems so thats another plus.
ANother thing if you only wanna run EQ 14-15 weeks thats fine you will still get good gains. 15+ is best though.
Possible side effects - acne (same with deca), anxiety (only in 750+ doses in most cases), high BP, possible libido reduction (same as deca)
those are the most common sides. However I did not have one spot of acne on me the whole cycle all I had was high BP and water retention.
Overall EQ gains look really great, nice moderate size gains, vascularity everywhere and much drier look than deca. They are different acting compounds but either option is good.
If you are looking for good strength gains, increased hunger, stamina, size then I recommend EQ as long as you can run it for 14 weeks at least.
yea i decided to switch to the eq.i just grabbed a few bottles a few mins ago.im just gonna stick with that.i was only on the deca for about 2 weeks.ill switch to the eq and finish the cycle with it.its easier to get ur hands on where im at anyway.i only live in a small town lol
Ok bro stick to that and give it time to kick in. EQ side effects will be seen at first few weeks but you will notice vascularity by week 4-5 and by week 7+ you will get pretty swole. Weeks 10-15 you will gAIN a little but your muscles will get harder and stronger and seems to solidify.
Yes EQ is great for you joints!!!
Mainly the thing about EQ is don't expect to get as huge size as deca. However with proper diet, and killin it in the gym you will get big.
Eq gains are gradual so your joints have time to catch up with muscle growth. Since EQ increases collagen production by quite a bit, you should see benefits in terms of joints.
People mistakenly say EQ doesn't help their joints as good as deca. Part of that could be because they are taking too high of dose of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) which low estrogen causes achy joints.
With EQ you don't need to worry about raising Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose, just dose it as if you were using test only and you should be good.
Mainly the thing about EQ is don't expect to get as huge size as deca. However with proper diet, and killin it in the gym you will get big.
Eq gains are gradual so your joints have time to catch up with muscle growth. Since EQ increases collagen production by quite a bit, you should see benefits in terms of joints.
People mistakenly say EQ doesn't help their joints as good as deca. Part of that could be because they are taking too high of dose of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) which low estrogen causes achy joints.
With EQ you don't need to worry about raising Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose, just dose it as if you were using test only and you should be good.
JimiThing
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Eq really isnt great for your joints like people think. (not trying to rain on anyone parade)
Eq may(MAY) increase tendon strength but it doesnt increase cross link connectivity so you actually become more prone to injury. I know this is contrary to what you may have heard but it is true - I saw a study posted on another board proving just this.
The best steroid for your joints is deca and it isnt because of water retention its because it appears through it progestenic action to have an anti inflammatory effect.
ALSO depending on eq dose you may have to up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI). If you get 600mgs/week and over its like ading 300mgs test from an androgenic standpoint.
Just a few points to consider.
Eq may(MAY) increase tendon strength but it doesnt increase cross link connectivity so you actually become more prone to injury. I know this is contrary to what you may have heard but it is true - I saw a study posted on another board proving just this.
The best steroid for your joints is deca and it isnt because of water retention its because it appears through it progestenic action to have an anti inflammatory effect.
ALSO depending on eq dose you may have to up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI). If you get 600mgs/week and over its like ading 300mgs test from an androgenic standpoint.
Just a few points to consider.
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Many people like the deca EQ combo. It is still a lot of gear though and You would need a gram of test to keep sex drive high which would be a total of 2grams of gear. kind of a lot of gear by most peoples standards.
And I would like to see that study saying EQ causes the joints to become weaker. I think YOU are confusing EQ with winstrol. Remember winstrol is the steroid that causes your cross link connectivity in joint tissue to become weaker. EQ is awesome for the joints. I was lifting heavy for 20 weeks while on EQ and never once had an issue.
And I would like to see that study saying EQ causes the joints to become weaker. I think YOU are confusing EQ with winstrol. Remember winstrol is the steroid that causes your cross link connectivity in joint tissue to become weaker. EQ is awesome for the joints. I was lifting heavy for 20 weeks while on EQ and never once had an issue.
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