Can't find caber does prami have as bad of side effects as people say?

Mad- scientist

Mad- scientist

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I keep hearing all these stories about people puking and sweating all night from taking prami. I am just curious if the side effects of prami are really that bad.
I wanted to find caber but I am having trouble locating anywhere that has it :mad: . So it sounds like most people are using .25mgs a day of prami I just wanted to check with people here and see if that is a appropriate dosage before taking it. I read a few threads from this forum and other forum's so ive done some research I just like to ask questions about things before I go through with it. So I know if im fucking up or not. So is there any certain method to building my dosages up to .25mgs and does any one have any advice on how to stop prami am I suppose to taper down. I have heard it can give with drawl symptoms. If any one has any good information feel free to post or pm me. I heard the place most people use to get caber from got shut down.

Im going to be using 850mgs of test with 600 mgs of NPP. Should I start taking prami at .25mgs immediately after the first injection of NPP or can I possibly just use the prami only if I get gyno side effects. Or is there other important reasons to use prami every day except for just preventing gyno?
 
I personally recommend starting off at .25mg EOD, and after a week moving up to .5mg EOD - finally stopping at .5mg ED if needed. It can make you very sleepy and should most certainly be taken with food. I do not personally get nauseous from it, but know a few that do, even when building up their dose. This is of course as long as I have food with the prami.

I have yet to see any withdrawal symptoms and I have taken prami on four cycles personally, but I have heard of it happening to Parkinson's patients that take far greater doses. The most important thing is to keep an eye on that E2. Even though prolactin/progesterone can elevate independently of estradiol, it's MUCH slower of a climb than if it has a handy E2 step-ladder to climb up. I tend to start my prami the evening of my first pin of a 19-nor.

My .02c :)
 
I personally do not get any side effects from it. However, I take it immediately before bed where I am usually asleep within 15 minutes from intake. So it's likely that I'm sleeping through the side effects. I wake up just fine. My initial protocol when I first started using Pramipexole, was 0.25mg every day before bed for 3 days. Then increase to 0.5mg for another 3 days, and so on. Not to exceed 1mg. If discomfort occurs, simply cut back on your dose.

Now that I've experienced the compound and know how my body reacts at certain doses, I just take 0.5mg nightly.

Just remember to use it before bed, and ramping up is very important when you're inexperienced.

halfwit mentioned a vital factor. Your first line of defense against progestins is managing E2.
 
that all makes sense... I appreciate the advice. So it sounds like I need to start taking it the day I pin NPP. Instead of waiting for side effects and than taking it. I figure 600mgs of NPP a week could be enough to cause prolactin problems and since the NPP will kick in so fast I guess any prolactin side effects will be happening at a increased rate compared to if I was taking deca. I want to try tren really bad but I figured its best for me to get experiences with how to combat prolactin and how I respond to prami before throwing tren in the mix. Just so I have that much more control over the side effects when I use tren.
 
My estrogen is a little high right now I can just tell because I am getting puffy nipples and I have a pretty good amount of water retention. I have just been running
.50mgs of arimadex every other day with my 850mgs of test. But I am going to bump it up to .75 than 1mg a few days after I do .75 and make sure there is no problems bumping up the arimadex.
 
Mad- scientist said:
that all makes sense... I appreciate the advice. So it sounds like I need to start taking it the day I pin NPP. Instead of waiting for side effects and than taking it. I figure 600mgs of NPP a week could be enough to cause prolactin problems and since the NPP will kick in so fast I guess any prolactin side effects will be happening at a increased rate compared to if I was taking deca. I want to try tren really bad but I figured its best for me to get experiences with how to combat prolactin and how I respond to prami before throwing tren in the mix. Just so I have that much more control over the side effects when I use tren.
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Spoken like a damn champion (bold). Makes me all warm inside knowing there are responsible AAS users out there haha. :p

I would take it on day one personally, but you easily have a week before you see any issues from increased prolactin/progesterone. Just keep that E2 under control, and you'll be in for a treat. :)
 
Mad- scientist said:
My estrogen is a little high right now I can just tell because I am getting puffy nipples and I have a pretty good amount of water retention. I have just been running
.50mgs of arimadex every other day with my 850mgs of test. But I am going to bump it up to .75 than 1mg a few days after I do .75 and make sure there is no problems bumping up the arimadex.
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Don't guess, get the blood test. I've sworn I was experiencing low E2 sides, only to find out I was WAY over range. If you think you have high E2, it's a good idea to know how high you are; so you can make a proper dosage adjustment. ;)
 
halfwit said:
Spoken like a damn champion (bold). Makes me all warm inside knowing there are responsible AAS users out there haha. :p

I would take it on day one personally, but you easily have a week before you see any issues from increased prolactin/progesterone. Just keep that E2 under control, and you'll be in for a treat. :)
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Lol after reading all the stuff you and austinite have written I have developed a weird sense of happiness when I do things more responsibly when it comes to steroids. Ive been trying to take everything into consideration to make the cycles as safe as possible and as easy on myself as possible. I have found that pre planning everything is the best because if something go's wrong when a person panics they usually can not think straight. Its kind of funny how easy a steroid cycle is if you do it right compared to how hard some one can make it on themselves if they don't plan it right or jump into to many things at once.
 
Mad- scientist said:
Lol after reading all the stuff you and austinite have written I have developed a weird sense of happiness when I do things more responsibly when it comes to steroids. Ive been trying to take everything into consideration to make the cycles as safe as possible and as easy on myself as possible. I have found that pre planning everything is the best because if something go's wrong when a person panics they usually can not think straight. Its kind of funny how easy a steroid cycle is if you do it right compared to how hard some one can make it on themselves if they don't plan it right or jump into to many things at once.
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I'm pushing 40, I'm all about simple haha. :D
 
I am going to go get blood tests done in about 2 weeks. I wanted to wait tell I have been on cycle for at least a month to a month and a week. Im on week 3 right now. I front loaded a pretty good amount so I know my levels are most likely at the maximum already. Im getting pretty damn big already. Lol I was skeptical of the front loading at first because I didn't blow up on the exact date I thought I would but ironically I started putting on more and more size every day after I made a thread asking about it all. Lol I just needed to give my muscle the time to actually grow.
 
I've run both caber and prami. Both have done the job well for me and I'm currently taking prami on my test/deca cycle. In fact, just popped a .3mg dose. I do .3mg every 3rd day and that has always worked well for me, but since the half life is only 8-10 hours it wouldn't be wrong to dose EOD or daily depending on the severity of your sides. I'm one of the lucky ones and I never seem to have any sides fro running 19-nor compounds so I really just take it to make sure I don't give progesterone an opportunity to get out of control. I'm also fortunate that I really don't have any side from running prami. Like Austinite mentioned, I take my dose right before bed so I'm likely missing out on any lethargy or sleepiness I might otherwise experience if dosing in the AM.
 
Lol I have insomnia... self diagnosed at least. I go to sleep at 6am and wake up around 3pm Its been like that for about a year now. Some times I even go to sleep at 12pm and wake up at 8pm. Ive tried melatonin and a lot of different things. This entire summer I barley saw the sun :(
 
I starred my prima day one of my tren I started at .10mg and worked my way up to .5mg. I felt nuasuese the first couple days but nothing after that. Good luck with ur cycle.
 
Mad- scientist said:
I am going to go get blood tests done in about 2 weeks. I wanted to wait tell I have been on cycle for at least a month to a month and a week. Im on week 3 right now. I front loaded a pretty good amount so I know my levels are most likely at the maximum already. Im getting pretty damn big already. Lol I was skeptical of the front loading at first because I didn't blow up on the exact date I thought I would but ironically I started putting on more and more size every day after I made a thread asking about it all. Lol I just needed to give my muscle the time to actually grow.
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Im curious to read the results of your NPP cycle, keep us posted
 
Good thread for me right now. Just started week 3 of test/deca and I have been putting off the prami for fear of it's sides. Was going to wait and see if I neededit, but after reading here I think I will start .25 EOD and see from there.
No noticable 19Nor sides yet....
Thanks for posting the question, MS.
 
Why doesn't anyone make a caber research chem but they do prami?
I trust my source to some extent, but caber being easily faked I trust no one.

Scared to try prami now after reading all the sides. Caber was smooth sailing
 
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