Celiac Test Done: High IGA and IGM Levels: Is This Precursor to ...

[needspractice]

Last year I went to a Doctor for Low Testosterone. Only because I thought I had low testosterone. I told him that I was not feeling on top of my game and that my dad had celiac.

Well he order a complete panel of like everything. The lab bill was like 1500.00 dollars. Covered by insurance thankfully.

Everything turned out fine and I did not have low testosterone.

Except I had an elevated IGA levels. He was perplexed by this and had me see a Hematologist immediately.

I did not know these Doctors usually work at the Cancer centers so when I called I kind of freaked out and started to think I had cancer.

In any rate the Hematologist looked at me after seeing my results and just look at me like I was dumb and why am I not all enjoying my life and why are you acting like all Hypochondriac like. I was kind of offended but I did not say anything.

So far I have had like 5 complete blood work tests done. I did not feel comfortable with this Doctor entirely so I went back to my primary doctor which I have two of them and they both ran complete tests.

All test come back fine except that I have elevated IGA mainly and a little elevated IGM.

I even went to an allergist certified doctor which told me that clinically that elevated IGA means nothing.

My primary doctor says that is what just makes you, you. That these results are based on a bell curve and that sometimes people are outliers. Is this true in my case?

Questions:

What does elevated IGA mean exactly?

What does elevated IGM mean exactly?

What does “An apparent polyclonal gammopathy: IgA and IgM. Kappa and lambda
typing appear increased.” mean exactly?

What does “The SPE pattern appears essentially unremarkable. Evidence of
monoclonal protein is not apparent.” mean exactly?

Is this anything I should worry about or do I just simply ignore this and move on with my life?

Does this have anything to with allergies or chronic sinusitis possibly? Because I have read up on this and have found that it might be do to that and I do have bad sinuses.

If everything is fine now, can everything stay fine or does this mean I can develop “Multiple Myeloma” or some form of “cancer” in the future based on these results? I mean I know everyone has a chance of getting cancer I am just wondering if I have an increased chance or something based on these results.

I am asking this because it just doesn’t seem like any of my Doctors either are not really concerned by this or just don’t really know what to make of it. I wish they could just tell me exactly what it is and what I should either prepare for or not prepare for.

I have seen the following Doctors:

Two primary doctors
One hematologist
Allergist
Endocrinologist

And have also had an ultra sound and a CT scan of my pelvis and stomach because I believe I have IBS instead of Celiac Disease like my Father.

So please let me know what I should do or what I should know.

Results:

2014 – March

Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum 710 High mg/dL 91 ***8722; 414 01
Endomysial Antibody IgA Negative Negative 01

2014 – April

Beta Globulin 1.4 High g/dL 0.6 ***8722; 1.3 01
Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum 721 High mg/dL 91 ***8722; 414 01
Immunoglobulin M, Qn, Serum 271 High mg/dL 40 ***8722; 230 01
THE SPE PATTERN APPEARS ESSENTIALLY UNREMARKABLE.EVIDENCE OF MONOCLONAL PROTEIN IS NOT APPARENT.

2014 – October

Beta Globulin 1.4 High g/dL 0.6 - 1.3 01
Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum 753 High mg/dL 91 - 414 01
Immunoglobulin M, Qn, Serum 270 High mg/dL 40 - 230 01
P E Interpretation, S 01 The SPE pattern appears essentially unremarkable. Evidence of
monoclonal protein is not apparent.

I have the two from my primary doctor but they just say elevated IGA and they are not worried about it.
All of these blood tests have much more information and tests on them but they are all normal so I didn’t bother putting them up here.

I am just wondering is my Doctors not telling me something because they do not want to get me down or depressed. By telling me that this can turn into something or is it truly something not to worry about?

I have seen many Doctors. Do any of you know of anyone else that I can go to that can truly tell me what these results mean?

Also can you explain to me where I can post these results to where I can get some answers and also do you know anything about these results?

Thank you for your time and I greatly appreciate your feedback.

 

[3J]

lets keep this simple.. have you tried running a gluten free diet??

 

[needspractice]

lets keep this simple.. have you tried running a gluten free diet??

No not yet. I probably should do that. Do you think that is what my system could be fighting and is creating an increased level of my IGA and IGM?

 

[3J]

No not yet. I probably should do that. Do you think that is what my system could be fighting and is creating an increased level of my IGA and IGM?

well i myself have done this test.. and only show a weak positive on one of them.. so i have something.. but its not celiacs per say..

with your results.. i would be fairly certain you have celiacs disease.. you need to go on a gluten free diet..

it actually isn't that hard.. i have been on one for well over a year now..

once you go on a gluten free diet it will take a few weeks to notice the changes.. since gluten stays in the system for a while..

but the changes are drastic.. all your gut problems will likely go away..


if you dont know how to run a gluten free diet i offer a package that is gluten free nutrition..


keep in mind, ALOT OF THINGS YOU EAT HAVE GLUTEN IN THEM.. EVEN TRACE AMOUNTS OF GLUTEN WILL MAKE YOU FEEL ILL

 

[needspractice]

well i myself have done this test.. and only show a weak positive on one of them.. so i have something.. but its not celiacs per say..

with your results.. i would be fairly certain you have celiacs disease.. you need to go on a gluten free diet..

it actually isn't that hard.. i have been on one for well over a year now..

once you go on a gluten free diet it will take a few weeks to notice the changes.. since gluten stays in the system for a while..

but the changes are drastic.. all your gut problems will likely go away..


if you dont know how to run a gluten free diet i offer a package that is gluten free nutrition..


keep in mind, ALOT OF THINGS YOU EAT HAVE GLUTEN IN THEM.. EVEN TRACE AMOUNTS OF GLUTEN WILL MAKE YOU FEEL ILL

What did you have that was weaken? Do you mean you where low instead of elevated on one of your ig's?

You are pretty certain that I am gluten sensitive? Every Doctor says that I do not have Celiac Disease.

Do you think I might get it in the future? Is that what you are saying but I might just have early stages of it?

 

[3J]

What did you have that was weaken? Do you mean you where low instead of elevated on one of your ig's?

You are pretty certain that I am gluten sensitive? Every Doctor says that I do not have Celiac Disease.

Do you think I might get it in the future? Is that what you are saying but I might just have early stages of it?

the actual test for celiacs disease is not the best indicator of an issue.. its hit and miss at times..

and im saying i had a "weak positive" on one of the two you mentioned..

youre showing a stronger reaction than i was..


this test is so new and the diagnoses protocol is so vague that youre doc himself couldn't be sure..

this is my recommendation... get on a gluten free diet.. see if your symptoms go away.. if they do, guess what you have an issue.. if they dont (and you have completely removed gluten from your diet, which includes foods that do not have gluten but have been processed in the same plant and foods that do have gluten in them) then something else is wrong..

why go through this nonsesne with your doc?? its a simple process of elimination that you have to go through..

remember, alot of food that you think wouldn't have gluten in it doesn.. sauces should be checked carefully for gluten.. processed foods have gluten in it.. tomato soup uses gluten as a thickener

it takes time to sort it all out by yourself.. but it will happen..

 

[needspractice]

the actual test for celiacs disease is not the best indicator of an issue.. its hit and miss at times..

and im saying i had a "weak positive" on one of the two you mentioned..

youre showing a stronger reaction than i was..


this test is so new and the diagnoses protocol is so vague that youre doc himself couldn't be sure..

this is my recommendation... get on a gluten free diet.. see if your symptoms go away.. if they do, guess what you have an issue.. if they dont (and you have completely removed gluten from your diet, which includes foods that do not have gluten but have been processed in the same plant and foods that do have gluten in them) then something else is wrong..

why go through this nonsesne with your doc?? its a simple process of elimination that you have to go through..

remember, alot of food that you think wouldn't have gluten in it doesn.. sauces should be checked carefully for gluten.. processed foods have gluten in it.. tomato soup uses gluten as a thickener

it takes time to sort it all out by yourself.. but it will happen..

I actually do not have any symptoms. I only started this whole process because I thought I had low T.

I do get tired sometimes but I have not been working out like I use too.

I went in for low T and came out with High IGA. That is the only reason I found out.

I am just wondering if I am an outlier here and everything is normal.

I just dont want to develop Celiac like my Dad did if all possible.

Question ...

So basically this has nothing to do with Cancer and is something more to do with Allergy or something like Gluten or Animal Dander? Correct?

 

[needspractice]

Also ***8230;

Do you think I have this:

MGUS: Monoclonal Gammopahty of Unknown Significance (MGSU)

Monoclonal Gammopathy of Unknown Significance (MGUS)

Or has this been ruled out by my blood tests?

Or

Bacteria Sinusitis or some kind of infection or allergy that my body has been trying to fight off for over a year?

Here are a couple of links to where people having elevated IGA and the Doctors really have no idea what to make of it when no others symptoms are present.

levated IgA with no explanation

Elevated IgA and recurrent respiratory tract infections

Any other ideas or ways to go? I have a feeling when I see my Hematologist next week they are just going to say, looks like your results are fine, good luck be safe out there, will run a follow up next year.

That***8217;s it with no explanation.

I just find it hard to believe that in 2014 that is the best we can do with Blood Tests.

 

[needspractice]

I apologize. I meant to also ask:

Do I have ***8220;polyclonal Gammopathy of Unknown Significance (MGUS)***8221;? or is this even possible?

This is what my Blood Test says:

Immunofixation, Serum
01
Immunofixation Result, Serum
An apparent polyclonal gammopathy: IgA and IgM. Kappa and lambda typing appear increased.

Result:

P E Interpretation, S
01
The SPE pattern appears essentially unremarkable. Evidence of monoclonal protein is not apparent.

It doesn***8217;t mention anything of ***8220;Monoclonal***8221; just ***8220;Polyclonal***8221;

That is why I was wondering if this possibly existed:

polyclonal Gammopathy of Unknown Significance (MGUS)

or when:

***8220;The SPE pattern appears essentially unremarkable. Evidence of monoclonal protein is not apparent.***8221;

Cancels all this out ***8230;

Do you understand what I am trying to say?

 

[3J]

so you have no lower or upper gi issues??? you dont get the runs?? get constipated?? get heart burn?? anal leaking?

 

[needspractice]

so you have no lower or upper gi issues??? you dont get the runs?? get constipated?? get heart burn?? anal leaking?

No runs, or rarely, I do get constipated but I am always able to go. no heart burn or anal leaking.

Like I said this was just an off blood test from a Low TEST blood test which came out fine as well.

Only symptoms I really have is grass and cats and dogs and maybe rarely I have to go to the bathroom real quick because low intestine hurts but once I go I feel great.

I really have no idea why I have high IgA.

Only other thing I can think of is my nose and allergies because sometimes that can get crushed and dark with blood, but not often though.

 

[needspractice]

Hello Everyone!

I***8217;m back and I***8217;m still here. However, I have some questions.

My Doctor said I was on the borderline now. So I pressed him harder and asked him what did he mean and he said since I am on the max level of 20 on my Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgA that I should go Gluten Free now. As all of you know this is a big life changing thing. No more bread, pizza, sub way sandwiches, pasty, Italian food, etc. etc. The list goes on forever. I know I can make adjustments and I am prepared to, however I want to make sure I am reading all this correctly.

I am just still unsure if I will have celiac or have it now just the precursor, or do I just have an insensitivity to gluten. Keep it light but I can manage it.

I am little confused.

Do I go gluten free because I will get Celiac Disease if I don***8217;t?

Questions***8230;

1-Do I have Celiac Disease or not?
2-If I don***8217;t, does it looking like I am getting it?
3-What should I do?
4-Can you be in between it? Meaning can I be sensitive to gluten but yet eat it a little bit in moderation?
5-If I went 1 year off gluten, repaired my bloodwork numbers, and had little bits of bread here and there with gluten would I be okay?
6-My dad had celiac or thinks that he does, he never officially did the biopsy, however, he had lying on the floor pain to where he wanted to kill himself. Now that he is gluten free he never has that pain again. I have never experienced anything close to this. Will I?
7-Am I missing anything else from these results, does high iga or Ab, iga mean anything else with no other symptoms?

Note:

I have ibs out bursts, low intestine problems for sure off and on. Headaches sometimes. I am thinking that if I go off gluten anyway I am probably going to feel 1000 percent better. So I am thinking about trying it anyway, however its not the end of the world and I could keep eating loads of gluten, if everything stayed the same. However, if this blood work looks like I am heading for a on the floor screaming in pain session later in life, I mine as well take care of it now.

All my other full comp labs came back normal besides my slightly high bad cholesterol.

PLEASE HELP ME BECAUSE I AM SO CONFUSED. ANYTHING YOU CAN DO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. PLEASE SEE ALL MY RESULTS BELOW RELATING TO CELIAC.

History of results:

2011

HDL Cholesterol = 32 L

Should be >39

2013

IgA = 682 H / Should be 68 - 379

Endo = Negative

tTg Ab, IgA = 8.3 / Should be <20

Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgG = 9.2 / should be <20

Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgA = 10.0 / should be <20

tTG Ab, IgG = 6.5 / Should be <20

2014

IgA = 608 / Should be 68 - 379

Endo = Negative

tTg Ab, IgA = 11.9 / Should be <20

Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgG = 9.7 / should be <20

Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgA = 12.1 / should be <20

tTG Ab, IgG = 10.1 / Should be <20

2014 ***8211; Different Test

CCP Antibodies IgG/IgA = 12 / should be 0 ***8211; 19

2014 ***8211; Different Test

Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum = 710 / should be 91 ***8211; 414

2014 ***8211; Different Test

Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum = 721 / should be 91 ***8211; 414

Immunoglobulin M, Qn, Serum = 271 / should be 40 - 230

2014 ***8211; Different Test [Later in the year]

Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum = 753 / should be 91 ***8211; 441

Immunoglobulin M, Qn, Serum = 270 / should be 40 ***8211; 230

2017

Immunoglobulin A = 690 / should be 68 ***8211; 379

Endomysial Screen = Negative

tTG Ab, IgA = 2 / should be <4

Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgG = 2 / should be <20

Gliadin Peptide Ab, IgA = 20 / should be <20

tTG Ab, IgG = 1 / should be <6

Cholesterol = 123 / should be 125 ***8211; 200

HDL Cholesterol = 29 / should be >40

 

[shithead]

Supposedly the gold standard to know if you have celiac for sure, is to go down the throat, not up the ass.... Have you done that procedure yet?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

So it is not the gluten causing the problem it is the pesticides beng held by the gluten go organic gmo free and add kefir and yogurt and raw milk if you can find it.