I have been using the Cyclo-Bold from QFS. I am shotting it Suq-Q, with a Slin pin into my mid section, one shot (1/2 cc or 25mg ) morning and night. 50 mg per day, for a total of 350mg per week. So far, I have noticed increased vacularity, slight increase in appetite, strength is up, have put on a few lbs of Lean muscle. I am also using Tren-60mg ED / PT Prop 120mg ED. This is a cutting cycle, but once I added in the Bold, I saw a great change in Lean mass to fat ratio. Great product. QFS rocks.