im 21,iv had trouble gaining weight my whole life ay,i use mega mass daily and creatine,and i eat like a horse,i need to know a bit more about nutrition tho,i eat healthy tho,and i eat big,with snacks in between,not much bad foods at all,alot of meat an veg.i used to be a professional fighter when i was younger,i represented newzealand,im strong for my build,an i gain in strenth but never in size which is a let down,any advice will be apprieciated,zeek tell me what u think too,i will use test on my second cycle,i just cant afford right now,its 140 for the dbol,and 180 for the test
couldnt give u a detailed description cos i eat diffrent eachday, but ill give u an example
in a day i might eat on a week day at work
4weet bix and milk for breakfast
a packet of potato chips,muesli bar,yogurt,twopeices of toast with tuna,a pack of noodles,a protein shake with like 1060cals,a can of fruit salad,and an orange....then i get home and have dinner which is usually meat eggs and vegtables or somthing like that
man this should tell you enough dahurt there is no fuckin diet
also OP you mind repping all of us
come on guys give us an example of foods to be eaten,instead of saying things like u dnt eat enough,im looking for constructive critism,not to be attacked,im taking all ur saying on board,honestly but elaborate on what ur saying,thanx
ahhhhhh grrrrrrthis is the thing,why scrutinise what i say,i gave u a description of what i would eat on a day,u see im a sawmiller,and i work long fuckn hours,for fuck all money so i eat what i can eat,which is a bit,why dont you give me an example of the kind of food i should eat?
balboa,i never said he only took dbol,i said looking at his avatar it looks like he knows what hes talkn about,so why does he say what he says?? why dont u prove what he says wrong? instead of sayyin oh well go for it an fuck urself up,u shud say why u think it would do that,as opposed to what needsize says.
dahurt,i know what it is,but whats some examples,and effects,any natural ones?
park,i never said i dont think any of these guys know what theyr on about cos clearly they do,but im asking them to back up what they say,were do u get ur ideas about loss of libido,loss of gains and depression from? if dbol is an anabolic,and mg for mg more anabolic than test,it does help produce some type of lean muscle does it not? and all the gains isnt just water retention,i want to know how to keep the GAINs not the water,surely there is some way.
come on guys give us an example of foods to be eaten,instead of saying things like u dnt eat enough,im looking for constructive critism,not to be attacked,im taking all ur saying on board,honestly but elaborate on what ur saying,thanx
also if i was on a 4week cycle of dbol,how long after would i have a limp dick lol, and like if u had a bitch rubbing her pussy in ur face,cud i still not get it up??? fuck surley.iv heard people running dbol for like 6weeks with no side effects,whats the guts with that
Ya know what, I'll make it easy. Here is an example of what I eat. You can give some rep love too if ya want.
Food Yesterday (typical day) (Cal/Fat/Carbs/Prot):
Immediately upon waking- 1 scoop Myofusion + 1 TBS honey (211/3/22.3/25.1)
Meal 1- 1 cup egg whites + 3 whole eggs +1 cup oats + double espresso w/ tsp honey (722/26.6/67.9/51.9)
Meal 2- 8 oz chicken breast + 1 cup oats (747/22.5/53/79.7)
WORKOUT
Post-workout shake- 2 scoops Myofusion + ½ cup oats (powdered) (446/8.5/36.5/56.3)
Meal 3- 8 oz chicken breast + 1.5 cups brown rice (765/20.1/66.6/74.5)
Meal 4- 8 oz ground turkey + 1 cup brown rice (588/22.6/44.4/48.4)
Meal 5- 8 oz steak + whole avocado (795/54.6/11.8/64.8)
Meal 6- 2 scoops Optimum Casein + 12 oz skim milk (259/1.9/21.9/37.5)
Totals:
Cal: 4533
Fat: 158.8g
Carbs: 324.4g
Protein: 438.2g
ahhhhhh grrrrrr
Dbol is, an anabolic, only. So, you would not expect to retain any gains from a dbol-only cycle. You need some kind of androgen, whether it be test, tren, or even some kind of androgen-only
well thanku for that lil bit of info there balboa,see usefull info,i still dont see why people claim they keep gains off it,it theoretically u cant,seems strange to me,but thanxs,i will go look at the diet forum,i just ddnt think of going there cos i put this up and was to busy with wat was goin on in here,ill do that tho, i think what needsize says has some substance to it tho,do u think so or do u think hes full of shit,
DAHURT,what do u do for a job,seeing as can buy all this food and u have all the time to eat all day
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Boa I'm actually eatin' more steak now - this is from a little while back. Doin' steak at least twice a day now on my Epi cycle. Just wish I could figure out how to cook the shit without making it tough and dry on the Foreman grill.
Travis - yeah dude, gotta have those carbs on a bulk! I just keep them all low glycemic index carbs, except for sometimes in the post-workout meal.
OP hope this helps...definitely spend some time in the diet section tho - musclebuilding is mostly nutrition and rest man.
Boa I'm actually eatin' more steak now - this is from a little while back. Doin' steak at least twice a day now on my Epi cycle. Just wish I could figure out how to cook the shit without making it tough and dry on the Foreman grill.
Travis - yeah dude, gotta have those carbs on a bulk! I just keep them all low glycemic index carbs, except for sometimes in the post-workout meal.
OP hope this helps...definitely spend some time in the diet section tho - musclebuilding is mostly nutrition and rest man.
man i used to think i could bulk while only getting 50-75 grams of carbs a day....i didnt know i was actually probably going into ketosis haha