DC Training Problem

IRonBuilT

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Hey, I don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but I recently started DC (dogg Crapp) Training and it felt good in the beginning. I followed everything I should have dont did warmups, negatives with each rep, statics and stretches; I recorded all my weight I did etc. This is where the problem came along after I did my 3 different workouts for each body part when it came around again to hit that first bicept workout that I did something like 2 weeks ago I wasn't able to do anywhere as near as what I did that first time. I was something like 6-7 reps short which is reaal bad. I don't know what happened exactly. I take in almost 2x my body weight of protein, I actually ate more on that day then I did on my first day I did my Bicepts. Only differences were this... I had walked roughly 4-5 miles out in the heat for 3 hours (Had a 5 hr rest before I hit the gym though), and my bicept wasn't sore but had this wierd light ache the whole day (Last time I did my bicepts was 4 days before). I dont know if I wasn't able to lift well because it was just a bad day or because I overtrained (even though I only do a few warmup sets and 1 Big RP set) or if I should take glutamine to help recovery, or if DC isn't for me, im not quite sure.. PLEASE HELP
 
i think you answered you own question. 4 or 5 miles in the heat the same day. slightly overtrained with a 4 day rest for bis. dante's routine is easliy modified to suit everyones needs. try backing off a bit and see what happens. dont get discouraged just keep manipulting it til you get it right. and you know? what works now may not work in a year. i am constantly making tweeks to many i train including myself. good luck bro. email dante if you got any questions. he'll answer you.
 
TRicKtOutT, You sound like you were dehydrated and that is the problem, you could not put back enough fluid in such a short amount of time.

How did the rest of your workout go with Forearms/Calves/Hams/Quads go?, did you progress on those.

Remember that most new trainess do not do any statics and they must find their weight for each exercise in order to get this program moving.

Do not modify this program in anyway, you are just starting out and stick to the guidelines as they are laid out.

Make sure your pre meal is on track also this make or breaks your energy with this program.

Glutamine is also good for pre workout as it is at night...
 
ok thanks a lot for the feedback guys.. I was real tired when I did my Forearms/Calves/Hams/Quads couldnt do much so I just gave up thinking that maybe I overtrained. So you think I should continue with this program and not worry about that decline? Also why shouldnt I do statics, its great I feel that pump when I do it (can I overtrain from it?)
 
no one program works for everyone. doggy will tell you his program is manipulted to fit each lifters needs. if you dont believe me ask him. tell um exmgq sent ya. he also sells some great protein. good deals as well. i dont train any two athletes the same. we may start out on a basic routine but it is adjusted as needed. now if this guy just started then he can give it some more time and it may be to his liking but it may need some tweeking. overtraining can rear its ugly head in just a few weeks. there are no set in stone routines that will work for everyone. and theres a chance what works for you today will not work in the future. good luck guys.
 
pullinbig said:
no one program works for everyone. doggy will tell you his program is manipulted to fit each lifters needs. if you dont believe me ask him. tell um exmgq sent ya. he also sells some great protein. good deals as well. i dont train any two athletes the same. we may start out on a basic routine but it is adjusted as needed. now if this guy just started then he can give it some more time and it may be to his liking but it may need some tweeking. overtraining can rear its ugly head in just a few weeks. there are no set in stone routines that will work for everyone. and theres a chance what works for you today will not work in the future. good luck guys.


ex, is that you, well how the hell are you, the strongest guy on the board.

TRicKtOutT, DC likes you to just do the r/p worksets and leave the statics out for at least a couple of weeks, just to find out your recouperation abilities, and yes ex is correct you can get overtrained very easy on this program.

Like DC have said tons of times this program should be used when you have exhausted all other programs and you are stuck with your gains.

I would opt to leave out the statics for now, get your exercises down pat and see what happens when you get through a couple of rotations.

Don't be down on yourself on what happened this time, things like this can happen, so just get right back into it, you just started and it takes some fine tuning to get it right...
 
yup its me in-human. after animal got banned i had to come over here and see what all the fuss was about. if tex banned him then tex must be an OK guy. lolololol how you been doin bro? wasnt sure if was you or not?

i like what IN-H said about not getting down. do not discouraged just keep plugging away. add alittle here and there and before you know it you movin some serious poundages.
 
pullinbig, Hey buddy, yea its my sorry ass here, I just made it to 295 last week and now I am starting my diet for my contest in December, my strength is still right up there and a little more now a days, maybe if I was a little younger I might be able to catch you, thats a major maybe of course, nice to know you are here, I was invited by DADAWG and he is one cool guy, huge of course.

Sorry to jack your thread TRicKtOutT, if you need anymore help just hit me up...
 
haha its cool man, thanks for your advice and I hop you wont mind if I PM you with all my little questions ill run though during this training

What I wanna know is when and how will I know when its time to start doing statics again? One wierd thing when im doing this training is that I dont feel all pumped up after I do my muscle group, for ex. Ill get all pumped right after I do chest but by the end of my workout my chest doesnt feel pumped up anymmore compared to my old routine where I would feel pumped up for 2-3 days; I was thinking maybe its because im not doing too much, but in reality im doing this training exactly like its explained to do it. One thing I have to add is that DC mentioned that your supposed to lift somewhere around 45 min - 1 hour max but for somereason it never works out with me it ends up being 1hr30min-1hr45min, maybe its because of the time it takes to change weights help out my friends with a spot when they need it and my resting periods will this be a problem if its over 1 hour? How much rest time do I give between each warmup set and between a warmup set and Real Set?
Lastly when im on juice how will this training change do I do more sets, instead of 3days a week of lifting do I bump it to 4??

Sorry to cram up all 5-6 questions here
 
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congrats on the 295. i know you worked and ate you ass off to make it. very nice. you be freakin shredded at 250. if you can get there. =0)

so dawg has connections. hmmmmm..... dawg where did you say you live? we may have already met and dont know it. you know us old guys get around and rub noses with these young bucks. makes us feel useful. course i aint ready to be put out to pasture. less of course there's a testosterone queen out there. you know how the song goes. "i love the way you look at me, l love the way you smack my ass"!!!!
 
pullinbig said:
congrats on the 295. i know you worked and ate you ass off to make it. very nice. you be freakin shredded at 250. if you can get there. =0)

so dawg has connections. hmmmmm..... dawg where did you say you live? we may have already met and dont know it. you know us old guys get around and rub noses with these young bucks. makes us feel useful. course i aint ready to be put out to pasture. less of course there's a testosterone queen out there. you know how the song goes. "i love the way you look at me, l love the way you smack my ass"!!!!
PB you just aint right :p :p
 
a pump is not always indictative of a good workout. neither is muscle soreness. you know its working when you addin reps/weight each week or every other week. IN-HUMAN get you headed in the right direction.

BTW IN-H you better eat some more i was 308 this morning. changed my super supps up some what. course if i was as lean as you i prolly only weigh 150 or so. =0)
 
by the way im 20 yrs old been lifting for 3 years and outta those years 2.4 years I have been lifting wrong lol. I really started to get into the right training and eating style after my first cycle 4-5months ago where I bumped up nearly 15lb off of 200enan 50 prop per week. im still a small kid and def no where near my natural limit, but ill still be juicing before I hit my limit. Im currently 165lb 5"10, and I was planning on juicing alot on september before I read up on this DC training and now im pushing it back to mid November so I can learn this new workout routine and use this routine when im juicing, I just needed to know how would I modify it to get the most out of it when on roids, because I know recovery time is much less so thinking of just going crazy and lifting like a maniac. thanks
 
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lift the same. you will make quicker increses but dont go crazy cause if you overtrain you wont gain any or you may get injured and that sucks a big root.
 
TRicKtOutT, These workouts are a bit different to the high volume workouts you had in the past with all the blood flow and thats pretty much about it. To tell you the truth, I get pumped, but nothing like the high volume pumps, but I have never gained this much mass in such a short time as I have on this program, I am rock hard the next day from these torturous exercises, but remember I have 25+ years in this game.

These are very taxing exercises and you should be using almost max weights on the r/p worksets. You will increase your weight or reps everytime you rotate back to each exercise every 12 days if you are on the 3 day split.

I can't say anything about your cycle I wish you were not using at this age, really, you are young and have a whole lot of dues to pay and years of good Test in your system to use before you use AAS. Remember that most of DC's trainees are clean and they do just fine, they make gains by leaps and bounds.

I want you to remember one very important thing, "Food is the most anabolic thing out there", you will get no where with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and no food, we don't need to see abs and gain mass like this.

If you need any help feel free to hit me up, ask me on the board so we can help others who might have the same questions.

exmgq, 308, damn you big sob, yea I wouldn't say I am the cuttest guy but I do have abs, we are looking at 242 or so to be super cut and dry to take those masters over 40 then I am going Open Novice super heavies, DC has been killing me lately with high volume r/p sets to keep myself injury free.
 
lets here one for the over 40 crowd still kicking ass. 242 is a lot of weight to ditch from a lean 295. post some pics or email me with them when you get show ready. how tall are you bro? whens the show?

i agree with you on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use by teens and early 20s guys. no need. it does make a diff but like you said great gains are to be had clean if nutrition and heavy steel are in place. a lot of these guys dont know how to work out and they on the stuff. wasting thier money and dont even know it. we learn by our mistakes.
 
ex, Don't tell Dante but man I am hoping for 250, my fingers are crossed, I am 5' 10 3/4", so 250 I would be huge and cut, so we will see, I will send you pics when I am getting close.

I do not like to see when younger guys think the needle is the way size and keeping it, I hear and see it a lot and you need a serious base to work with I lifted for 18 years before I even thought of doing it plus I studied it for 15 years prior to being "on"...
 
pullinbig said:
lets here one for the over 40 crowd still kicking ass. 242 is a lot of weight to ditch from a lean 295. post some pics or email me with them when you get show ready. how tall are you bro? whens the show?

i agree with you on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use by teens and early 20s guys. no need. it does make a diff but like you said great gains are to be had clean if nutrition and heavy steel are in place. a lot of these guys dont know how to work out and they on the stuff. wasting thier money and dont even know it. we learn by our mistakes.
i second that lets hear it for the over 40 crowd ;)
looking forward to pics here as well .
 
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