Phatbastard
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yup
Deca and EQ only cycle
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Phatbastard
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its a waste of money but thats my opinion! I havent seen what are your goals?
And yes for all u that are looking to FLAME I have used it
You dont believe me send me yours I'll post a picture all oiled up
And yes for all u that are looking to FLAME I have used it
You dont believe me send me yours I'll post a picture all oiled up
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joei rock
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im with phatbastard on this one too ...EQ seems pretty pointless .. you have to run it for almost 4 months just to really take advantage of what it does...and you cant say its for joint relief if your stacking with deca... and help with appetite is just as dumb IMO
my first cycle was suggested to me by someone I (and other dumb asses i know) considered reputable and informed on the subject... i was stupid to make that assumption, cuz thats what led me to a tren/EQ 12 week first cycle...
do the research , and dont just assume cuz someone looks big, or sells the stuff, or tells you they know it all that they have even a clue... chances are they dont know shit.
my first cycle was suggested to me by someone I (and other dumb asses i know) considered reputable and informed on the subject... i was stupid to make that assumption, cuz thats what led me to a tren/EQ 12 week first cycle...
do the research , and dont just assume cuz someone looks big, or sells the stuff, or tells you they know it all that they have even a clue... chances are they dont know shit.
joei rock
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lol...
Phatbastard
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I just believe there s a way better bang for your buck again unless it a contest prep period
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Phatbastard
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so theres at least 3 of us that got fucked on that one lmfao
Anyone else care to chime in here?
Anyone else care to chime in here?
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So why are we still discussing this? You can find an article on the net to agree with anything you want. Your friend is wrong and that's a bad cycle. You should do test only first then an androgen/anabolic deca/test.
EQ will not be enough to keep your libido. It is not test, it does not increase your test, and it will not work. It may be ok for a period of time if your lucky.
You have been told repeatedly what the correct way of doing a cycle is. EQ blows. It's weak at best and needs to be used in high doses for long periods of time. Deca is a great AAS but I will not touch it without test.
I'm glad you are trying to learn and figure things out but no matter what you do it's not a good cycle. Chances are that's just what the guy had or extra or whatever. Don't trust people in the gym or anywhere. Do your own research and I can tell you a simple google search will lead you to the same answer you are getting here repeatedly.
I'm guessing you already bought the stuff from the guy which is fine but get some test and use one or the other with it after a test only cycle.
EQ will not be enough to keep your libido. It is not test, it does not increase your test, and it will not work. It may be ok for a period of time if your lucky.
You have been told repeatedly what the correct way of doing a cycle is. EQ blows. It's weak at best and needs to be used in high doses for long periods of time. Deca is a great AAS but I will not touch it without test.
I'm glad you are trying to learn and figure things out but no matter what you do it's not a good cycle. Chances are that's just what the guy had or extra or whatever. Don't trust people in the gym or anywhere. Do your own research and I can tell you a simple google search will lead you to the same answer you are getting here repeatedly.
I'm guessing you already bought the stuff from the guy which is fine but get some test and use one or the other with it after a test only cycle.
Phatbastard
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LOL to funny Brother But hey don't piss on my parade I was trying to get some sun tan lotion out of this
joei rock
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i hear EQ helps give you that nice golden brown look. the other shit just makes you orange!!!
Phatbastard
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ha you tried it also lmfao
Phatbastard
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Seriuosly next to Winstrol (winny) its the worst steriod i ever tried
supersafado
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So what about eq for joints? Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca. Which is an indicator of collagen synthesis.
So there has to be a benefit for using it....
So there has to be a benefit for using it....
Logical
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Nothing stimulates libido as well as test does, i dont know the specifics of why, but i've seen and felt more than enough evidence to convince me
event though they're structurally similar, i doubt it makes much of a difference. EQ is far less androgenic than test, and it doesn't convert to DHT, which has no small part in maintaining normal libido
supersafado
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That's for collagen synthesis and that is dosed at 3mg a kilo a week. Ignorant is ignoring what is scientifically proven. I am not saying it is the worlds best for gaining mass. What that statement was in regards to was collagen synthesis and helping your joints. Which it does better than deca.
And no people probably won't do a dosage as low as 350mg a week but what is shown is your procollagen III will increase that much on such a dose.
And no people probably won't do a dosage as low as 350mg a week but what is shown is your procollagen III will increase that much on such a dose.
cook.chris
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I really appreciate your input on this. I realize that's I'm just a newbie and from your experience this cycle probably sounds idiotic to you, and I can understand that. The reason that I'm still considering this cycle is because it was suggested to me by someone who does this type of consulting for a living. He only designed the cycle for me. He does not get anything out of this, he does not actually sell gear. I specifically asked him whether I need test in this cycle and he told me that anything I take the first time will work and taking test would be overkill and that EQ would accomplish what test would for libido(I realize that people here don't agree with that). I told him I wanted to start off slow and this is the cycle he gave me:
Week 1-8:
1. 400mg Masteron a week (100mg every other day)
2. 200mg Winstrol a week (50mg every other day)
Week 9-16:
1. 400mg EQ (100mg every other day)
2. 600mg Deca (200mg 3x per week)
Now that you see Deca and EQ together in a complete cycle, does it make more sense?
Week 1-8:
1. 400mg Masteron a week (100mg every other day)
2. 200mg Winstrol a week (50mg every other day)
Week 9-16:
1. 400mg EQ (100mg every other day)
2. 600mg Deca (200mg 3x per week)
Now that you see Deca and EQ together in a complete cycle, does it make more sense?
DADAWG
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the guy who told you this is idiot .thats the worst 1st cycle plan i have ever seen.
even if you were going to run eq or deca on a 1st cycle any newbie knows that those are both long ester steroids and need 12 weeks mininum anything less than 10 is pretty stupid.
do what you want but quit wasting our time if your going to listen to that guy because he does NOT know what the fuck hes talking about.
supersafado
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You have heard it a few times already but I will just say it again. Always run test as a base of every cycle. You want to start off slow. 500mg of test a week. That means Monday/thursday 250mg each pin. Whinny is not a good drug do not use it.
Get a post cycle therapy (pct). Look into an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to have on hand. I would run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well.
Get a post cycle therapy (pct). Look into an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to have on hand. I would run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well.
Dark_Side
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That's far from a complete cycle. This is just getting dumber by the day. Why are you still bothering? clearly you just want to listen to your buddy and go that route.
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