Deca Dose for TRT?

TRTony

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So im on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) 210mg cyp a week. I will be addin deca. I hear conflicting things. Indont want deca dick. Im thinking
210 cyp
120 deca.
Thats a 1.75/1 ratio.

Should i go higher on deca? Lower?
 
Is there a problem getting more test? Pretty sure wherever you're getting the deca will sell you some test. Here is a proposed test/deca cycle...these are extreme minmum dosages.

Week 1-14 Test cyp/E 400-500mg ew
Week 1-14 Deca 300-400mg ew

If you are on Trt you dont hve to worry about pct so you dont have to drop deca early cause you aren't worried about recovery. Eat right...ALOT...and even at those moderate doses you'll see some good gains.

Have you ran a real cycle before? If not, i'd suggest just going with a test only cycle at around 500-600mg ew...
 
Lol thanks for advice. A few things tho.

1. Never done a cycle
2. Im comming back to gym after 2 month layoff due to injury i gained a lot of fat so i want to cut.
3.if i dont wanna cycle wats a good Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) protocol. I can use more test just expensive as shit
 
Test is more expensive than deca?

Whats a good Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) protocol? What you're already doing. something around 150-200mg of test ew.
 
if your looking for just HRT.. Hormone Replacement Therapy.. Do this.. Shoot 200 mg of cyp or enanthate on fri.. on Tues and wed do 250 iu of HCG.. (some people shoot the HCG closer to the fri date of shooting the testosterone.. I like to keep it a little bit out.. Also do 10 mg of novla and 1 mg of arimidex twice a week.. say monday and friday..

The concept here is that the HCG keep your system going.. its a continous cycle for hrt.. Actually I know guys who do this all year round.. Its a standard Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) script... Any doctor certified in Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) knows this protocol. but you will be surprised how many doctors who are not certified have no clue!!!


Now here is the question.. If this is your first cycle.. why are you doing hormone replacement therapy? If your natural test levels are not low then why HRT.. are your natural test levels low?


And the deca question.. what are you trying to achieve.. Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) will not give you the gains you want and Deca should be closer to 100 mg per week for every 200 mg of test.. This keeps deca-dick to a lower level.. if your getting deca dick then kick up your test injection... Now 100 mg of deca with the 200 mg of cyp will still give you some results... But modest ones.. I am sensing your wanting to keep it cautious.. so your not doing a regular cycle..
 
if your looking for just HRT.. Hormone Replacement Therapy.. Do this.. Shoot 200 mg of cyp or enanthate on fri.. on Tues and wed do 250 iu of HCG.. (some people shoot the HCG closer to the fri date of shooting the testosterone.. I like to keep it a little bit out.. Also do 10 mg of novla and 1 mg of arimidex twice a week.. say monday and friday..

The concept here is that the HCG keep your system going.. its a continous cycle for hrt.. Actually I know guys who do this all year round.. Its a standard Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) script... Any doctor certified in Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) knows this protocol. but you will be surprised how many doctors who are not certified have no clue!!!


Now here is the question.. If this is your first cycle.. why are you doing hormone replacement therapy? If your natural test levels are not low then why HRT.. are your natural test levels low?


And the deca question.. what are you trying to achieve.. Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) will not give you the gains you want and Deca should be closer to 100 mg per week for every 200 mg of test.. This keeps deca-dick to a lower level.. if your getting deca dick then kick up your test injection... Now 100 mg of deca with the 200 mg of cyp will still give you some results... But modest ones.. I am sensing your wanting to keep it cautious.. so your not doing a regular cycle..

This is not a standard testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose.

A standard testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose is 100mg/wk or 200mg/wk. Up to 400mg/ month. And why would you get arimidex, generic exemestane (cheap at walgreens) is far superior, also known as aromisin.

As for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), to each their own. I dont like using mine much due to it aromitizing so much. Im on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), my boys aint working anyway, well on my analysis test they arent.

Run your 200mg/wk, do half a cc mondays and thursdays. Take 12.5Mg exemstane (comes in 25mg tabs, get a pill cutter), EOD.

Also running hcg year round would without question fry your leydig cells. So your friends are essentially shutting themselves down harder than the gear they are using is. just saying.

If using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), use it every 6-8 week at 500iu on monday and 500 iu on friday of same week.

For the deca on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) question. I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), i use a dose of 150mg/wk deca for joint support and help retain some amounts of gains from when i blast off my trt.I find deca really helps with my nitrogen retention and fullness, although only eat 160g carbs per week, i never get bloated from deca anymore. But watch your sodium intake, deca holds some interesting properties, one of which will make your body retain even more sodium... adding to the deca bloat.

As long as e2 is under control with 12.5 mg aromisin EOD, prolactin issues will be null and void.

Also never run nolva with deca... nimrod. Can you can blood clot?
 
Guys i dont want a cycle. I like testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) year round. Also ok. So would 140 deca be too much for 210 cyp?
 
Guys i dont want a cycle. I like testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) year round. Also ok. So would 140 deca be too much for 210 cyp?

No that is fine. Keep e2 under control with proper Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and blood panels. Only use deca for 3-4 months at a time. take 2-3 months off in between. You can not be in deca as Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) like test...
 
^^^Agree with animal. Didn't realize you weren't looking for a cycle, even though what you are asking is a cycle, just a very mild one. 16-20 weeks on deca...then a couple months off..blood work..on again.
 
if your looking for just HRT.. Hormone Replacement Therapy.. Do this.. Shoot 200 mg of cyp or enanthate on fri.. on Tues and wed do 250 iu of HCG.. (some people shoot the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) closer to the fri date of shooting the testosterone.. I like to keep it a little bit out.. Also do 10 mg of novla and 1 mg of arimidex twice a week.. say monday and friday..

The concept here is that the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) keep your system going.. its a continous cycle for hrt.. Actually I know guys who do this all year round.. Its a standard HRT script... Any doctor certified in HRT knows this protocol. but you will be surprised how many doctors who are not certified have no clue!!!


Now here is the question.. If this is your first cycle.. why are you doing hormone replacement therapy? If your natural test levels are not low then why HRT.. are your natural test levels low?


And the deca question.. what are you trying to achieve.. HRT will not give you the gains you want and Deca should be closer to 100 mg per week for every 200 mg of test.. This keeps deca-dick to a lower level.. if your getting deca dick then kick up your test injection... Now 100 mg of deca with the 200 mg of cyp will still give you some results... But modest ones.. I am sensing your wanting to keep it cautious.. so your not doing a regular cycle..

Totally missed this post. I do need trt. Im 24. Last year test levels were 383. 3 months later they were 320. Also deca is for healing. I got fucke up shoulder joint and rc. So i need this stuff for medical reasons however a nice anabolic effect is always a plus?
 
As for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), to each their own. I dont like using mine much due to it aromitizing so much. Im on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), my boys aint working anyway, well on my analysis test they arent.


Also running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) year round would without question fry your leydig cells. So your friends are essentially shutting themselves down harder than the gear they are using is. just saying.

If using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), use it every 6-8 week at 500iu on monday and 500 iu on friday of same week.
Animal, you seem pretty knowledgeable so I'm quoting you for more info.
Correct me if I'm wrong(I probably am) but doesn't Crisler and many of the "experts" in the Ology TRT forum recommend 250iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2x/wk year round?
 
Animal, you seem pretty knowledgeable so I'm quoting you for more info.
Correct me if I'm wrong(I probably am) but doesn't Crisler and many of the "experts" in the Ology testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum recommend 250iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2x/wk year round?
trying again
 
I've been on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) (TRT) for 2 years+ 250mg T depot every 2 or 3 weeks only, pushes my free T serum level from 300 to over 1200 (after an injection).
Im 54 years old. Zero side effects and great sexual benefits. Built muscle too, but took a while and my routine may not have been ideal.


Now I'd like to do a cycle - considering 250mg/week 12 weeks of Testoviron Depot.
I also have Deca Durabolin (DECA M250) which I never used.

I'd like to use as little product as possible to avoid side effects, but not waste it by taking too little for results.
I'm not a bodybuilder but would like to add 10lbs muscle and reduce/eliminate belly and back fat (yes, I used to have big lats until about 30 years old) in 6 months and move back to a maintenance dose and stop the Deca.

I've read tons about Deca and it seems the ratio T/Deca is about 2/1.
What is the effect of stacking the 2 versus just using T?
Will 250mg T / week (instead of every 2 or 3 weeks for HRT) and 100 mg Deca M250/week be a waste of the Deca?

Looking for the fine line between results and no side effects. I realize this will an experimentation.
Can anyone recommend/comment on taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during or after (but I will be going back to HRT/TRT Testoviron dose.

My program in the gym is good, and so are my meals. I was doing HILV and now trying 5x5. Free weights only.

Do you think my goals are possible in 6-8 months?

thanks for any and all advice!

jingjing
 
I ran 200mgs of deca and test my first cycle
Still my fav, no problems and joints felt great
 
I ran 200mgs of deca and test my first cycle
Still my fav, no problems and joints felt great

200mg of each? -What do you think about 250 test and 100 deca - I know it's only an opinion... I'm not a body builder but would like to add 10lbs muscle and reduce/eliminate belly and back fat (yes, I used to have big lats until about 30 years old, now it's fat!) in 6-8 months and move back to a maintenance Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) dose and stop the deca.

thanks
 
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