I ran a 6 week deca/sust cycle of 200 /g and 250 mg from mid november 2010 to the end of december 2010. Between the second and 3rd week of January I noticed I was "shooting blanks". Now it is feb 6th and I am no longer shootting blanks but I have NO SEX DRIVE whatsoever. Even porn can't get me up. Bc it was only 10 ccs of each I was told by my trainer I needed no post cycle therapy (pct) so I took nothing. No clomid or anything. My test levels r low (119:9) and my doc said in a month it shud come back. Is he right and do you think my hormones and hpta will ever come back? This is my first and only cycle. Any advice wud be greatly appreciated. Thanks and god bless!
Deca/Sustanon please Please for the love of god help!
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I've seen some terrible cycles in my (short) time but this one tops the list. Deca and sust have very long half lives and should be run for a minimum of 12 weeks and sust should be taken EOD because it contains esters with very short half lives. I'm not surprised you haven't recovered yet, it'll still be in your body. You could start post cycle therapy (pct) right now. If you don't you may be on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life. There's a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) forum, go there for more information.
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OK, you need to do exactly what i tell you. In this order:
1. Get you some Clomid and start a proper post cycle therapy (pct) protocol RIGHT NOW. If you can get it, i would get some HCG as well and do a blast session before you start the SERMs. See Det's post cycle therapy (pct) protocol on this here>>> http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...95482-standard-post cycle therapy (pct)s.html
2. Up your calories to cycle level (if you were eating right during that stupid ass cycle) and keep training hard, just lower your volume
3. Take one of your long white tube socks and fill it with at least 100 nickels.
4. Tie a knot in the sock just above the pennies.
5. get in your Miata (cause no straight man would do a cycle like that).
6. Drive to LA Fitness (cause no straight man would work out there).
7. Have them page your trainer to the front desk.
8. As you see him walking towards you, remove the sock full of nickels from your pocket and swing it around your head like a helicopter. If you are unfamiliar with this process, refer to this video>>>YouTube - Petey Pablo - Raise Up
9. Once he is in range, lunge forward and watch as the sock full of nickels connects with his jaw. If he is still standing after the first strike continue with Step 8/9 until he falls to the ground. Added points if you stomp on his balls before each subsequent strike to his now bloody pulp of a face.
10. Before you leave, if you get out before police get there, look him into whats left of his one eye and say the following:
1. Get you some Clomid and start a proper post cycle therapy (pct) protocol RIGHT NOW. If you can get it, i would get some HCG as well and do a blast session before you start the SERMs. See Det's post cycle therapy (pct) protocol on this here>>> http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...95482-standard-post cycle therapy (pct)s.html
2. Up your calories to cycle level (if you were eating right during that stupid ass cycle) and keep training hard, just lower your volume
3. Take one of your long white tube socks and fill it with at least 100 nickels.
4. Tie a knot in the sock just above the pennies.
5. get in your Miata (cause no straight man would do a cycle like that).
6. Drive to LA Fitness (cause no straight man would work out there).
7. Have them page your trainer to the front desk.
8. As you see him walking towards you, remove the sock full of nickels from your pocket and swing it around your head like a helicopter. If you are unfamiliar with this process, refer to this video>>>YouTube - Petey Pablo - Raise Up
9. Once he is in range, lunge forward and watch as the sock full of nickels connects with his jaw. If he is still standing after the first strike continue with Step 8/9 until he falls to the ground. Added points if you stomp on his balls before each subsequent strike to his now bloody pulp of a face.
10. Before you leave, if you get out before police get there, look him into whats left of his one eye and say the following:
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yes, it can help you recover, but you need to start now. Only time will help you get back to normal. Which you really don't know what that is anyway as i'm sure you didn't have any blood work done before you started.
So, after you follow the steps i laid out for you, go get some blood work done and have your total/free test, estradiol, prolactin checked to make sure all is back to normal.
And that is not a light cycle. Any cycle including a 19nor is not considered light, even by those stupid doses.
StoneColdNTO
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Moved to the appropriate forum.....
Guys im sorry and I'm new to this forum thing so im sorry if this is an inappropriate one, but please bear with me here. thank you so much RJH for your quick responses! that being said should I get the clomid from my doctor bc it doesnt appear my trainer can get it. I cant thank you enough for your help man. I am just a naive stupida** kid and I should have never touched the stuff but im glad there are people like you who can help me with this. So what do you think are the chances that I never get back to normal? or as long as I follow your advice am I almost garunteed to recover?
don't worry about being a stupid ass kid. It happens. Again, i wouldn't go anywhere near that asshat you call a trainer. This is his fault also.
Now, you had a baseline test done which is huge. So now our main goal is to get you back to at least that number OK? This is why baseline tests are good because you have a number to strive for normalcy.
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As soon as you get it start taking 50mg/d for 4 weeks straight. Make sure you are eating the whole time. Even if you get a little fat. Who cares?
If you can get some HCG that would be great. If not, just use the Clomid. You should be Ok. Especially since it sounds like you are young.
RJH thank you so much for your help man. seriously i cant thank you enough and I will be sending you some money as a thank you when this is all over. Honestly though i'd prefer to get it from my doc since I go this afternoon and can get it faster, but what should I ask him for and how much. If he wont give it to me, what product should I order from that site (like dosage-wise from the page u sent me). I cant thank you enough for your quick responses and help man. u are a saint.
if you can get it from your doc, that would be better. They usually come in 50mg tabs, so you need at least 28 tabs.
Again, i'm not saying you'll be back to normal at the end of that protocol. you need blood work done again about 2 weeks after you finish the Clomid. Time is really the key here.
but you should be fine. Just hurry up.
And don't worry about sending me money. naked pics of your girlfriend(s) will suffice...
or your sister if you're from Alabama and she's down for that kind of shit...
or your mom if she's still hot and doesn't have C-section scars!
lol well thanks man but i will be sending you atleast a little cash for this bc uv been crazy helpful. so i got a few closing questions.
Worst case scenario if the dr cant provide clomid for me, then am I completely screwed if I dont do it? Like is it absolutely vital in recovering or is it just to speed it up.
Also do u think there is any chance I never recover (or never fully recover that is)? Like have you ever seen or heard of anyone that was perminantly completely shutdown by a cycle like this?
Finally, Deca did cause me to get some gyno (man boobs) and I have already opted to have a surgery once I recover (if i ever can recover). The low testosterone has caused my estrogen to skyrocket, and I know clomid causes an increase in estrogen as well, so that being said is my estrogen raise enough to help bring the testosterone back up or is clomid absolutely neccessary. And if it is, will clomid cause ever more gyno? Thank you so much for everything man.
Worst case scenario if the dr cant provide clomid for me, then am I completely screwed if I dont do it? Like is it absolutely vital in recovering or is it just to speed it up.
Also do u think there is any chance I never recover (or never fully recover that is)? Like have you ever seen or heard of anyone that was perminantly completely shutdown by a cycle like this?
Finally, Deca did cause me to get some gyno (man boobs) and I have already opted to have a surgery once I recover (if i ever can recover). The low testosterone has caused my estrogen to skyrocket, and I know clomid causes an increase in estrogen as well, so that being said is my estrogen raise enough to help bring the testosterone back up or is clomid absolutely neccessary. And if it is, will clomid cause ever more gyno? Thank you so much for everything man.
frankzanefan
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Best posts ever.
yes, its sarcasm. your posts are funny dude. And of course mine was unparalleled.
Listen, you are making this too hard. You need something to kickstart your natural test again. Which means you need a SERM like Clomid.
No i haven't seen anyone completely fucked up from one cycle like this, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
i will tell you this, whether you have man boobs or not, you are getting worse by the day and although over time you may come back to normal, what will you have lost by then. A year of misery, man boobs, being fat, no erections... need me to go on.
I told you where to get the Clomid. If your doc can't do it, buy it from one of those places. Take it as suggested.
Lets deal with one problem at a time.
aight i went to the doctor and he said he wants to retest my test levels in 2 weeks and he said in that time he was against giving me clomid bc he said thats going to take my estrogen levels crazy high and fuck up my system even worse. He said he has seen people on deca for a year at a time and after a month or 2 they were back to normal without post cycle therapy (pct). any word on this? do u think this is right or if i follow this advice will i be perminantly shutdown and have to resort to hormone replacement therapy? also is hormone replacement therapy that bad?
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Tell your doc to take his cock out of his ear for a minute and listen to what the problem is. You came here for advice and RJ gave you all the advice you could ever need. Quit asking questions and get the clomid
You are screwing your self up more by sitting around thinking about it after you were told what to do
You should have put this much thought into taking that cycle and you probably wouldn't be here now.
You are screwing your self up more by sitting around thinking about it after you were told what to do
You should have put this much thought into taking that cycle and you probably wouldn't be here now.
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get the clomid bro
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