Deca with test washout.

[supersafado]

Stats: 27yrs old. 200lbs

Planning a cycle that consist of
500mg/week of test e
300mg/week of deca.

Will a dosage of test that high wash out the effect of collagen synthesis that I would get from deca?

Tore my labrum in my shoulder. Dr. Re attached it. It was a simple surgery nothing too serious. Also put a stitch in my bicep tendon it was kinda frayed but like I said nothing serious.

I like the benefit but if test at 500 a week is homing to wash out any effect then I just wont bother and I will keep with the test only.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

Well you will have a better effect for that WITH the deca than without no doubt! I noticed good joint repair or at least relief with test/deca. Run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) low from the start tho

 

[BigKevKris]

Well you will have a better effect for that WITH the deca than without no doubt! I noticed good joint repair or at least relief with test/deca. Run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) low from the start tho

He's dead on man....good luck....DEFINITELY run the AI!

 

[JMB1]

No the test will not "wash it out". Personally when I want collagen synthesis from deca,
I find 5-600 mg is most beneficial. My joints have high mileage though. Others may not
need this much.

 

[Epic Ed]

I ran test @ 600mg and deca @ 300mg and had positive benefits for joint pain relief. However, it was not as much relief as I felt running 400 mg of test and 250mg of deca.

YMMV.

 

[LANDSCAPE1]

Stats: 27yrs old. 200lbs

Planning a cycle that consist of
500mg/week of test e
300mg/week of deca.

Will a dosage of test that high wash out the effect of collagen synthesis that I would get from deca?

Tore my labrum in my shoulder. Dr. Re attached it. It was a simple surgery nothing too serious. Also put a stitch in my bicep tendon it was kinda frayed but like I said nothing serious.

I like the benefit but if test at 500 a week is homing to wash out any effect then I just wont bother and I will keep with the test only.

I had this same sugery.... and it blows. Take it esy man, I'd give 6 months/easy, or youll be doing it again... How did he attach it?

 

[RJ]

isn't this your first cycle?

 

[supersafado]

isn't this your first cycle?

Yeah this is my first cycle. Which i know the recommendation is test only. Which i totally understand why and agree with it. Which will still probably be the route i take. Right now i am just researching and looking at options. I am however very interested in making sure i can promote collagen synthesis for my shoulder. Which i know test doesn't do. I just don't know what to expect on my first cycle. They say, test can reduce collagen synthesis so i am looking into what i need to do to be safe. Maybe 16 weeks of test isn't enough to have to worry about it. I don't know.... I read the thread posted not to long ago about collagen synthesis so it got me doing some research. I honestly haven't come to a conclusion about what i should do. That's where i go to the experts. Really trying to fully understand everything before i jump into anything.

 

[supersafado]

I had this same sugery.... and it blows. Take it esy man, I'd give 6 months/easy, or youll be doing it again... How did he attach it?

My Dr. is giving me full consent to lift full bore as soon as i hit week 12. I am already lifting light with no problems and with help of my physical therapist. Dr. went in scoped my shoulder and trimmed a little of the frayed cartilage then sutured it down. I am recovering very well..... With that said i am not getting over confident and i am going to give myself time to recover but i never figured 6 months. This was a very simple procedure and it wasn't a very serious injury. Atleast that's what the doc is saying. Rotator cuff and bicep tendon where both in very good condition. My plan was when i reach 12 weeks i will hit the gym hard for 6 to 8 weeks see how things are feeling and if i am comfortable start my cycle. I am currently on week 8.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

Although, for light workout maintenance while rehabilitating injuries the FIRST thing that should come to mind is GH. Natural preferably over the exogenous, you can use peptides GHRP-6 and CJC-1295 to seriously boost your natural GH output levels & secretions to an equivalent value of using synthetic HGH at about 5-10UIs/ED THAT much GH will give sides & effects similar to HI levels of exogenous HGH. Numb tingling hands/fingers, bone density, collagen synthesis, increased tendon/muscle repair, rapid fat metabolism and on and on.. Just from my experience, with severe tendon, elbow and wrist pain healed from 3months on GHRP-6/CJC-1295 peptides. I've been off em for a month now and still hitting the weights heavy upwards of 100-120lbs curls, 100lbs triceps extensions that before would have been so excruciating it would've brought me to tears. Anyways, Just another (cheaper) option.

 

[supersafado]

Although, for light workout maintenance while rehabilitating injuries the FIRST thing that should come to mind is GH. Natural preferably over the exogenous, you can use peptides GHRP-6 and CJC-1295 to seriously boost your natural GH output levels & secretions to an equivalent value of using synthetic HGH at about 5-10UIs/ED THAT much GH will give sides & effects similar to HI levels of exogenous HGH. Numb tingling hands/fingers, bone density, collagen synthesis, increased tendon/muscle repair, rapid fat metabolism and on and on.. Just from my experience, with severe tendon, elbow and wrist pain healed from 3months on GHRP-6/CJC-1295 peptides. I've been off em for a month now and still hitting the weights heavy upwards of 100-120lbs curls, 100lbs triceps extensions that before would have been so excruciating it would've brought me to tears. Anyways, Just another (cheaper) option.

That is a very good point and a could be a good option except i know absolutely nothing about HGH. My source doesn't have any available either so i will have to do some checking. I am sure there are some good threads and I'll have to start reading up. Can you run test with HGH? For a first cycle ever how is it recommended for someone to take?

I love it on this site. As soon as you think you might be getting it figured out. Someone brings up another idea. .... Back to the drawing board. I do appreciate the help though.

 

[supersafado]

I didn't catch this the first go around but where do you get HGH being a cheaper option? Unless something has changed GH is an expensive ass option. Hope i'm wrong cuz it would be great to have.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

I'm not talking full synthetic HGH bro! PEPTIDES, GHRP-6 and CJC/1295. GHRP-6 increases you natural GH secretions, CJC-1295 boosts the amount of GH released in the enhanced secretions.. It's the only TRUE post cycle therapy (pct) for guys coming off HGH because it regulates your pituitary to increase and release it's own natural endogenous production of growth hormone. Peptides ARE MUCH cheaper. You can synergize a cycle with GH enhancing peptides. Theres a Board Sponsor who can supply you.. SRC, dawg

 

[supersafado]

Awesome, I am totally new to peptide. I have to do some searching on it. That might be a better option than than trying to stack on a first cycle. How have you incorporated this into your cycles?

 

[zedhed]

I'm not talking full synthetic HGH bro! PEPTIDES, GHRP-6 and CJC/1295. GHRP-6 increases you natural GH secretions, CJC-1295 boosts the amount of GH released in the enhanced secretions.. It's the only TRUE post cycle therapy (pct) for guys coming off HGH because it regulates your pituitary to increase and release it's own natural endogenous production of growth hormone. Peptides ARE MUCH cheaper. You can synergize a cycle with GH enhancing peptides. Theres a Board Sponsor who can supply you.. SRC, dawg

Exactly right on this. If it were me I would go with the GHRP-6 either alone or with the CJC-1295 without DAC.
I would do this over using deca, I feel the benefits of getting the extra strong pulses of your own GH will do much better then any chemicals.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

I'ld recommend GHRP-6 WITH CJC-1295. Being as that is what I've run several experiments with, finding great results. As I said earlier, I've rehabilitated serious tendon/joint pains with them.. Although on a side note, to combat some off cycle gyno I've been on letrozol for 2weeks now and slight joint pain has returned from drying out so much on the ultimate Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Just a typical side effect on letrozol tho, probably what caused it in the first place using letro for 20weeks during a heavy cycle. I like the veins that pop out of regions that don't normally tho. To incorporate into a cycle, you just administer the shit. On, off, post cycle therapy (pct) or whatever whenever. Dosage is body weight dependent so my 175lb ass takes 100-150mcg, 3-4xED. Upon waking, at lunch, preworkout & just b4 sleep. If conserving, skipped the pre workout

 

[supersafado]

I'ld recommend GHRP-6 WITH CJC-1295. Being as that is what I've run several experiments with, finding great results. As I said earlier, I've rehabilitated serious tendon/joint pains with them.. Although on a side note, to combat some off cycle gyno I've been on letrozol for 2weeks now and slight joint pain has returned from drying out so much on the ultimate Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Just a typical side effect on letrozol tho, probably what caused it in the first place using letro for 20weeks during a heavy cycle. I like the veins that pop out of regions that don't normally tho. To incorporate into a cycle, you just administer the shit. On, off, post cycle therapy (pct) or whatever whenever. Dosage is body weight dependent so my 175lb ass takes 100-150mcg, 3-4xED. Upon waking, at lunch, preworkout & just b4 sleep. If conserving, skipped the pre workout

I've been spending some time in the peptide science forum and there was a thread about some people having joint pain in this stuff? What is up with that? isn't it supposed to help with that? I started a thread there so i hope i get some good response from it. Ok so not to get too off topic with this thread cuz that only gets annoying.

For a first cycle. I will NOT use deca. Keep to what's recommended. Test only. As much as i would love to run Deca. I head the gains are awesome.....

Gonna run Test E 16 weeks. 500mg a week.

Hope these peptides are the shit and do their job.