delt injection mad pain lol

John102london

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Did delt on friday, was a bit shaky .. i injected 1ml of test E so 300mg

The needle did move in and out a tad bit.. but today (sunday) and yesterday it hurts like fuck feels like sombody took a hammer to my arm lol.. it is not red but it looks a tad bit swelled nothing major.. this is normal for virgin delt?
 
not delt but first couple in glute i moved needle around a bit also ...little soar at first but went away in couple hours...not 100% sure but from my exp ( which is not much) moving the needle around has not caused pain like u have....could be wrong though never messed with delt
 
if its 300mg/ml and from your uncle i have heard that his gear does cause pain in some...so if thats what gear u have its prob from that
 
Lol, didn't you talk about having a high pain tolerance earlier? Which injection site did you use before that didn't seem to bother you?
 
Here's an quick overview of why it hurts, and some suggestions for how to make your next injections less painfull. Every juicer has experienced this at some point.. the Sustanon strut.. the Propinate peg leg... and the list goes on. Often the soreness will last up to a week and end up effecting your workout and often your whole lifestyle. So what's up? Why does it hurt and what can I do to lessen the pain? Below is a quick explination. Why it hurts: It's simple.... you're causing muscle trama. This often causes swelling of the muscle which will make matters worse. You cause muscle trama from an injection in a few different ways. Let's look at how we're causing this trama. 1) Big ole hole in your muscle! Obviously a needle is going to damage your muscle as it cuts a hole often a inch or deeper into your muscle. Usually this is the least of your worries/pain. 2) Forceing a bunch of oil into your muscle. Believe it or not, mother nature didn't design our muscles with the consideration that we'd be forcing a bunch of oil into them. The oil spreads the muscle fibers apart which causes muscle trama. 3) Benzyl Alcohol. This is what's used to disolve the steroid into the oil suspension. Your muscles don't particularly like this stuff. So what can we do to lessen the pain? 1) Massage the muscle/injection site well after your injection. This helps to spread the oil out evenly throughout your muscle causing less trama to any 1 particular part of the muscle. 2) Warm up your gear! Run your syringe under hot water for a couple of minutes. Heating the oil makes it thinner which again will help to allow it to spread out evenly throughout your muscle. 3) Cut your steroid with a less painful steroid, STERILE oil, or even Sterile Vitamin B12 oil. This will help dilute the concenration of Benzyl Alcohol. MAKE SURE IT'S A STERILE OIL!!!! 4) More injections of less steroid. It's not the needle that causes post injection pain, it's the steroid. Often splitting up your 3cc dose into 2 x 1.5cc injections will make life much less painfull. 5) Inject SLOWLY! The slower the better. This helps to allow some of the oil to move away from the injection site on it's own. The more you force the oil into the muscle, the more the muscle fibers near the injection site are going to be forced apart (causing muscle trama) to accomadate the oil. 6) Try to keep a steady hand. The tip of the needle is like a razor blade inside your muscle, the more you move it around, the more it's going to cut up your muscle. Notes: -Your muscles will often get "used" to injections. Most juicers report that each injection gets a little easier and less painful (up to a point) -A "stronger steroid" will have more Benzyl Alcohol in it than a weaker steroid. Ie) 200mg/ml Propinate will have twice as much Benzyl Alcohol in it than 100mg/ml propinate. Hence, the stronger steroids will ofter cause more post injection pain. -Every juicer's body responds differently to gear. Something that was painful to you may cause no pain for someone else or vice versa.
 
I agree with your article as far as the shorter esters go. Most people I know have no pain with cypionate or enanthate.
 
i did it in my quad and the pain was minimal but its a bigger muscle.. i mean it hurts but not to the point i cant move or use my arm.. it just feels like a bad bruise.. just wanted to make sure its normal
 
Here's an quick overview of why it hurts, and some suggestions for how to make your next injections less painfull. Every juicer has experienced this at some point.. the Sustanon strut.. the Propinate peg leg... and the list goes on. Often the soreness will last up to a week and end up effecting your workout and often your whole lifestyle. So what's up? Why does it hurt and what can I do to lessen the pain? Below is a quick explination. Why it hurts: It's simple.... you're causing muscle trama. This often causes swelling of the muscle which will make matters worse. You cause muscle trama from an injection in a few different ways. Let's look at how we're causing this trama. 1) Big ole hole in your muscle! Obviously a needle is going to damage your muscle as it cuts a hole often a inch or deeper into your muscle. Usually this is the least of your worries/pain. 2) Forceing a bunch of oil into your muscle. Believe it or not, mother nature didn't design our muscles with the consideration that we'd be forcing a bunch of oil into them. The oil spreads the muscle fibers apart which causes muscle trama. 3) Benzyl Alcohol. This is what's used to disolve the steroid into the oil suspension. Your muscles don't particularly like this stuff. So what can we do to lessen the pain? 1) Massage the muscle/injection site well after your injection. This helps to spread the oil out evenly throughout your muscle causing less trama to any 1 particular part of the muscle. 2) Warm up your gear! Run your syringe under hot water for a couple of minutes. Heating the oil makes it thinner which again will help to allow it to spread out evenly throughout your muscle. 3) Cut your steroid with a less painful steroid, STERILE oil, or even Sterile Vitamin B12 oil. This will help dilute the concenration of Benzyl Alcohol. MAKE SURE IT'S A STERILE OIL!!!! 4) More injections of less steroid. It's not the needle that causes post injection pain, it's the steroid. Often splitting up your 3cc dose into 2 x 1.5cc injections will make life much less painfull. 5) Inject SLOWLY! The slower the better. This helps to allow some of the oil to move away from the injection site on it's own. The more you force the oil into the muscle, the more the muscle fibers near the injection site are going to be forced apart (causing muscle trama) to accomadate the oil. 6) Try to keep a steady hand. The tip of the needle is like a razor blade inside your muscle, the more you move it around, the more it's going to cut up your muscle. Notes: -Your muscles will often get "used" to injections. Most juicers report that each injection gets a little easier and less painful (up to a point) -A "stronger steroid" will have more Benzyl Alcohol in it than a weaker steroid. Ie) 200mg/ml Propinate will have twice as much Benzyl Alcohol in it than 100mg/ml propinate. Hence, the stronger steroids will ofter cause more post injection pain. -Every juicer's body responds differently to gear. Something that was painful to you may cause no pain for someone else or vice versa.

correct, but you're leaving out the fact that the the test can sometimes crystalize in the muscle after you inject it and there it sits until it is dissolved.

Ever have test fall out of the solution in the vial? If little or no Benzyl Benzoate was added during manufacture, this can occur in the muscle.

I think it's obvious why this would cause pain.


edit: this seems to be MUCH more common with prop, and I'm not sure why. Heavier ester maybe?
 
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