Did alot of research, but still having trouble putting together a 1st cycle.

[goblue79]

OK, first of all I have done a lot of research but there are so many different people all having different opinions.

Looking for some advice on a Test only first cycle.

Stats:
35
5'9"
180lbs
9-11% BF

I understand the basics when it comes to the different Test esters and that a good PCT is Vital but I am having trouble figuring an exact cycle. There are so many different drugs available for PCT and I am also confused on what I should have on hand during my cycle, in regards to AI's, HCG, etc.

I just want to have everything I need in place before I start and any advice would be appreciated.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Heres a good first cycle:

Pre cycle bloodwork: hormonal profile, CBC and comprehensive metbolic panel.

Weeks 1 - 12: Test E 500mg weekly, split into two shots of 250mg e3.5d.
Weeks 1 - 13: Arimidex 0.25mg eod

Week 6: mid cycle bloodwork, check how good your gear is and where your estrogen is sitting. May need to increase or decrease your AI at this point depending on blood results.

PCT: 21 days after last injection...
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20 (Daily dose for each week.)

Post cycle bloodwork: 6 weeks after end of PCT.

HCG isn't absolutely essential.. But highly recommended. Dose at 500 iu weekly, split into two shots of 250 iu e3.5d.

 

[Teutonic]

this one s done lololol

 

[goblue79]

Heres a good first cycle:

Pre cycle bloodwork: hormonal profile, CBC and comprehensive metbolic panel.

Weeks 1 - 12: Test E 500mg weekly, split into two shots of 250mg e3.5d.
Weeks 1 - 13: Arimidex 0.25mg eod

Week 6: mid cycle bloodwork, check how good your gear is and where your estrogen is sitting. May need to increase or decrease your AI at this point depending on blood results.

PCT: 21 days after last injection...
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20 (Daily dose for each week.)

Post cycle bloodwork: 6 weeks after end of PCT.

HCG isn't absolutely essential.. But highly recommended. Dose at 500 iu weekly, split into two shots of 250 iu e3.5d.

Thanks very much for the help, I have one more question.

I already have a 10/ml vial of Tesp P 100mg. Can I start with this and transition into Test E? I realize I will be pinning EOD on the P but I already have it and want to take advantage of it if possible.

 

[Southernfish]

Bro, dont start your cycle until you have everything you need on hand. What happens if your link gets cut and you are a week or two in and uhh ohh you cant get any more. Be patient, get all your Test, AIs, and PCT drugs in your hands then start.

 

[oldmusclemike]

I heard you ask about AI and something about things on hand. Keep reading, Estrogen, prolactin, side effects of high and low Estrogen. What Ai's help with and help prevent.

I will tell you straight out, you don't keep you AI on hand YOU PLUG IT IN DAY ONE until right up to PCT. OK keep researching and ask Q's on your research. Then you will know why people advise this jn that and you might get an idea between BRO-Science and real science. Read up on the profiles. Know the timings of esters. Good luck and come back here w/more Q's after more reading. Take your time

 

[goblue79]

Im not starting until I get everything, what I am saying is I was given the Test P from a really close friend, so I am asking if I can start my cycle with it (when I get everything else)?

Im not going to start it right now and then hope everything falls into place. I have read enough to make sure I have everything in hand.

Thanks for looking out though man.

 

[Southernfish]

Im not starting until I get everything, what I am saying is I was given the Test P from a really close friend, so I am asking if I can start my cycle with it (when I get everything else)?

Im not going to start it right now and then hope everything falls into place. I have read enough to make sure I have everything in hand.

Thanks for looking out though man.

Ahh gotcha, Ya you can kickstart with it. I really dont think one bottle will suffice though. Whatever your weekly dose of test is, id run the prop at the exact same dose on top of what youre already doing for a 4 week kickstart. But in all honesty this being your first cycle, drop that idea. Just do what PD layed out for you, its bang on.

 

[jozifp103]

Yep what prince lined up is a flawless first cycle layout. Do that exactly as he wrote it. Guys a genius

 

[organiksteel]

^^^^^^ Couldn't agree more. You need to have everything on hand (especially if you start to get signs of gyno....gonna need that nolva on hand)....Make sure you read the pct thread. It has a lot of outstanding information.

~Organik

 

[oldmusclemike]

DAMM, now I aint got anything to add... good luck

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Yep what prince lined up is a flawless first cycle layout. Do that exactly as he wrote it. Guys a genius

Lol im no genius bro, but thanks for the kind words. You should see what my first cycle looked like, it was a nightmare haha.

Cheers to whoever repp'd me.

 

[appleton111]

try this Dosages

test - 500mg/week
deca - 400mg/week
eq - 400-500mg/week
dbol - 20-25mg/day
winny - 50mg/day
anavar - 40-60mg/day

Length of Cycle

most cycles go for 8-12 weeks, 10 weeks is more than sufficient for a first cycle and pretty much the norm

test - 8-11 weeks
deca - 8-10 weeks
eq - 8-10 weeks
dbol - 4 weeks
winny - 4-6 weeks
anavar - 6-10 weeks

 

[MBB]

try this Dosages

test - 500mg/week
deca - 400mg/week
eq - 400-500mg/week
dbol - 20-25mg/day
winny - 50mg/day
anavar - 40-60mg/day

Length of Cycle

most cycles go for 8-12 weeks, 10 weeks is more than sufficient for a first cycle and pretty much the norm

test - 8-11 weeks
deca - 8-10 weeks
eq - 8-10 weeks
dbol - 4 weeks
winny - 4-6 weeks
anavar - 6-10 weeks

This is his first cycle. Why in the hell would you recommend all these compounds. Prince laid out a perfect first cycle, no need for all these other compounds - just asking for trouble. Not to mention yours has no AI, HCG or PCT listed.

 

[Southernfish]

try this Dosages

test - 500mg/week
deca - 400mg/week
eq - 400-500mg/week
dbol - 20-25mg/day
winny - 50mg/day
anavar - 40-60mg/day

Length of Cycle

most cycles go for 8-12 weeks, 10 weeks is more than sufficient for a first cycle and pretty much the norm

test - 8-11 weeks
deca - 8-10 weeks
eq - 8-10 weeks
dbol - 4 weeks
winny - 4-6 weeks
anavar - 6-10 weeks

Dont be givin stupid/wrong advice like that. Where the hell did you come up with the amount of time you should run those compounds for? Theyre all outta whack. Guys gonna fuck himself up for good listening to that. Jeez.

 

[goblue79]

try this Dosages

test - 500mg/week
deca - 400mg/week
eq - 400-500mg/week
dbol - 20-25mg/day
winny - 50mg/day
anavar - 40-60mg/day

Length of Cycle

most cycles go for 8-12 weeks, 10 weeks is more than sufficient for a first cycle and pretty much the norm

test - 8-11 weeks
deca - 8-10 weeks
eq - 8-10 weeks
dbol - 4 weeks
winny - 4-6 weeks
anavar - 6-10 weeks

Its funny I am new, about to do my first cycle, and still know more that this fucking idiot.

 

[goblue79]

Heres a good first cycle:

Pre cycle bloodwork: hormonal profile, CBC and comprehensive metbolic panel.

Weeks 1 - 12: Test E 500mg weekly, split into two shots of 250mg e3.5d.
Weeks 1 - 13: Arimidex 0.25mg eod

Week 6: mid cycle bloodwork, check how good your gear is and where your estrogen is sitting. May need to increase or decrease your AI at this point depending on blood results.

PCT: 21 days after last injection...
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20 (Daily dose for each week.)

Post cycle bloodwork: 6 weeks after end of PCT.


HCG isn't absolutely essential.. But highly recommended. Dose at 500 iu weekly, split into two shots of 250 iu e3.5d.

Everything is lined up, just waiting to have it all in hand. I got everything you said Prince.

I have a few more questions:

What is a good online lab to use for blood-work that does not require a doctors script?

Also would any of you veterans be willing to give me some advice on my AI dosage after I get the results form the mid cycle blood-work?

Again thanks for all the help guize.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Everything is lined up, just waiting to have it all in hand. I got everything you said Prince.

I have a few more questions:

What is a good online lab to use for blood-work that does not require a doctors script?

Also would any of you veterans be willing to give me some advice on my AI dosage after I get the results form the mid cycle blood-work?

Again thanks for all the help guize.

Good on ya bud. I forgot to mention, if your running hcg you start it from day 1 and run it until you start pct.


Privatemdlabs are the most commonly used labs here... Check out megatrons signature, it has links to that and another lab.


Of course, thats what we're here for. Post up your bloodwork when you get it and we'd be happy to advise. Just remember to block out your name. Post up pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork if you like.

 

[goblue79]

Good on ya bud. I forgot to mention, if your running hcg you start it from day 1 and run it until you start pct.


Privatemdlabs are the most commonly used labs here... Check out megatrons signature, it has links to that and another lab.


Of course, thats what we're here for. Post up your bloodwork when you get it and we'd be happy to advise. Just remember to block out your name. Post up pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork if you like.

Appreciate it man. I just checked out Privatemedlabs and there are so many fucking tests. Which ones should I get?

 

[goblue79]

Good on ya bud. I forgot to mention, if your running hcg you start it from day 1 and run it until you start pct.


Privatemdlabs are the most commonly used labs here... Check out megatrons signature, it has links to that and another lab.


Of course, thats what we're here for. Post up your bloodwork when you get it and we'd be happy to advise. Just remember to block out your name. Post up pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork if you like.

OK so I think I figured it out but comparing Megatrons signature and the labs website. It looks like a Female Hormone Test and a Total testosterone should cover it. correct me if I am wrong.