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Real ralox is better than real tamox but both will work.
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Real ralox is better than real tamox but both will work.
privet1978
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but what about real tamox vs research ralox? unless you know where to get real ralox.. i've looked everywhere..
DreDay187
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THere's absolutely no way to compare those. If the research ralox is real and accurately dosed than it's one thing if it's bunk or underdosed is another.
jack3d4life
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I would say I'm going to make the switch been taking 40mg tamoxifen for 3 weeks and maybe a little something but I'm gonna switch to ralox. The research screams better results.it just ducks because my gyno is from going through puberty so it's old. But I've seen a bunch of guys get rid of theirs totally. Exciting thought! Haha
DreDay187
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Yea man, SERMs have reversed even pubertal gyno so it should help you out
privet1978
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Hey man, what are you running as an AI with your nolva? I just switched from liquidex to aromasin pills and it's making a huge difference with my gyno. I know my liquidex was legit because my e2 was at 13, so I took a few days off from an AI and then started aromasin 1/2 pill ed with my nolva and my nips have been soft and feel almost normal I don't know if the lump are shrinking yet, I'm a little scared to play with them but they do feel good and they are not sticking to my shirt at the gym anymore. so I don't know about others but for me switchin to aromasin is helping!
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Megatron28
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There are adverse drug interactions between arimidex and tamoxifen. They should not be taken together. This may be contributing to why you are feeling better with aromasin.
STAUNCHED427
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I assume this interaction occurs with raloxifene as well?
Also this interesting, ralxofiene decreases IGF-1 a bit like Nolva yet has no effect on testosterone (meaning it is pointless for PCT it seems).
I am considering using raloxifene with the protocol Austinite suggested @60mg for the first 10 days and then 30mg until the two small pea sized lumps disappear under my nipples (there is also definitely adipose tissue that isn't gyno on top of the lumps and around the nipple as well which I plan on doing a cut in around 6 weeks from now to rid of as it looks like simple fatty deposits), but the two pea sized lumps they developed after fucking around with TRT at high doses and arimidex proving to be useless for some strange reason and it is noticable through most of my t-shirts now specifically my left nipple so now I got to wear my tight, thick fucking t-shirts until I get rid of it.
Oh well, such is life. You can sit back and bitch about the problems life deals you or you can tackle them head on.
DreDay187
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The interaction doesn't Happen with raloxifene but further studies have shown that the interaction between adex and nolva to have no clinical impact. Basically don't worry if you mix the two.
STAUNCHED427
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Good good because I'm looking at adding adex into my TRT protocol if need be as I am still dialing it in and want to get on the raloxifene asap as to rid of the gyno as quick and early as I can.
I have my suspiscions it was the brand of adex was very underdosed... or it could have been another factor that is now removed we will see though. Dre check you inbox.
I have my suspiscions it was the brand of adex was very underdosed... or it could have been another factor that is now removed we will see though. Dre check you inbox.
mr_ectomorph
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Hello Austinite, I started a test/npp/eq cycle. Therefore I incorporated an AI and a PA. First week, I started using Aromasin-Liquid Stane and Pramipexole- Liquid Prami from Rui. I experienced headaches, head rushes, heart palpitations, rapid heart beats at night, massive legarthy- tiredness and lack of energy. I was also dealing with test flu, since my body was adapting to my test dose, yet, that was only for 1 night.
I was using aromasin at 25mg eod and prami at 0.5mg ed (i tapered up my prami dose every 2 days by 0.125mg). I still feel legarthic, I take a lot of long naps throughout the day.
However, the day I cut both of them, all the sides I was experiencing faded away quickly enough.
Now I started stane again at 12.5mg eod and prami at 0.125mg. I will keep tapering up prami every 3-5days instead by 0.125mg and see how I feel. I am not sensitive to estrogen when it comes to gyno, but I am very sensitive to 19 nors which make me hold lots of water in pecs, making them look puffy.
I am very sensitive mentally and physically to prami and aromasin, do you think prami will mess me up again? And if so, what would be a safe way to run it. So far i have been 3days on prami at 0.125mg and I only feel legarthy and rarely heart palpitations.
Also, I have tried running Nolva, just for the time that my AI gets a hold in my body, and my stomach felt extremely acidic, is that normal?
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
I will be starting Raloxifene treatment for these two gyno lumps I had after trying to dial in TRT (had high e2 and mild pre exisiting pubertal lumps so they were aggravated).
Protocol will be 60mg for the first week then 30mg until gyno disappears but will probably run it a week or 2 longer after it fully dissapears. Will post a log up tonight and keep updates just if anyone is interested.
Log located here
Protocol will be 60mg for the first week then 30mg until gyno disappears but will probably run it a week or 2 longer after it fully dissapears. Will post a log up tonight and keep updates just if anyone is interested.
Log located here
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Hey on the subject of puffy nips, I'm on week 3 in my third cycle and my nips are puffy. But they get puffy every cycle and from what I remember they stay that way the entire cycle. I always use Aromasin 12.5mg a day. Never got gyno or lumps. From reading at different sites lately it seems a lot of people say that really shouldn't happen. So my question is is this a situation in which I should increase my ai dose? I mean, I never thought having puffy nips was that big a deal for me because they always get that way. Was planning on blood test about 5 weeks in. Should I get one sooner?
i have been running this on another forum , but i will make a short resume here:
about 1 month after a NOLVA pct , i woke up with big nasty glands (fingers reaching towards nipples ) and 2 big hard dimes under my nipples , sad sad sad , within a week i started RALOXIFENE at 60mg/day.
currently in about the 6th week.
week 1 - nothing happened
week 2 - nothing happened
week 3 - sometimes lumps seemed smaller/sometimes bigger
week 4 - same weird shit
week 5-6(now ) - about 5 days ago overnight , the fingers literally dissapeared 90% , and the lumps shrunk by 30% at least, the nips still look puffy and pointy , and the lumps are still big but not as big as last week.
am looking for as much opinions as i can ,
from the initial post here i should stop after 60 days of 60mg/day ralox , but i was thinking just to lower it to 30mg/day ?
and 1 more question: should i incorporate somehow aromasin into this story? i have a box lying around , i know contrary to the initial post here but i just wanted to ask , sorry if i disturbed anyone.
about 1 month after a NOLVA pct , i woke up with big nasty glands (fingers reaching towards nipples ) and 2 big hard dimes under my nipples , sad sad sad , within a week i started RALOXIFENE at 60mg/day.
currently in about the 6th week.
week 1 - nothing happened
week 2 - nothing happened
week 3 - sometimes lumps seemed smaller/sometimes bigger
week 4 - same weird shit
week 5-6(now ) - about 5 days ago overnight , the fingers literally dissapeared 90% , and the lumps shrunk by 30% at least, the nips still look puffy and pointy , and the lumps are still big but not as big as last week.
am looking for as much opinions as i can ,
from the initial post here i should stop after 60 days of 60mg/day ralox , but i was thinking just to lower it to 30mg/day ?
and 1 more question: should i incorporate somehow aromasin into this story? i have a box lying around , i know contrary to the initial post here but i just wanted to ask , sorry if i disturbed anyone.
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
I am currently just going into my second week of 60mg Ralox ED and have not noticed much yet either. Allthough I have heard mixed reports in that some say ralox takes a while to get to work but when it does it works quite well which your report just seems to back that up. My nipples are still giving me occasional grief (the lumps are hurting) but I noticed it is less often each day so it's a good sign. Like I said, it is still too early for me to be judging. If you do happen to have aromasin and are not on cycle, if it is liquid, maybe try 5mg or so ED to see if it helps. You don't want to be driving your e2 too low which is easy when off cycle, but at that dose you will more than likely just reap the benefits of a little increased test and lowered estro.
Give it time
BigDaddyCool88
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Any links to the Raloxifene to purchase?
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