E2 nuked worse than Hiroshima

[KBD]

I just wanna let everyone know I never want to experience this (low e2) ever again, as a matter of fact I would much rather have high e2 than low. I know the difference very well.

High e2- lower libido but not completely gone like low e2
- normal appetite
- little lethargic but still had motivation
- trouble orgasming

Low e2- NO LIBIDO, NO DESIRE TO
- NO APPETITE
- NO MOTIVATION
- orgasms came easy if i used talada
And wtf? Bloated stomach, like I gained water weight.
Depression
Anxiety
Out of breath
Heart pumping harder than usual during workouts

I know for a fact this is low e2 for anyone saying it might be high, it's not, it's very low, I abused adex/letro for a while trying to get rid of some gyno (which it did) I continued running them even while lower my test dose to 200.

So low e2 sucks and is this permanent because it's been like 5 days since stopping the anti estrogens and I still feel like total dog shit. I'm popping 50mg dbol and took an extra 250mg test to try and spike estro. I hope I go back to normal guys I'm fucking freaking out, I'm already manic.

 

[Mprtz]

There are estradiol products used by women for HRT purposes. If I was in your situation I might investigate how to use such a product to quickly restore some E2.

I'd be very cautious though - seems to be kind of uncharted territory.

 

[KBD]

There are estradiol products used by women for HRT purposes. If I was in your situation I might investigate how to use such a product to quickly restore some E2.

I'd be very cautious though - seems to be kind of uncharted territory.

I agree, don't want that gyno coming back, I'm using a small 10mg dose of nolva to prevent it. This is effecting my workouts and relationship and just my life. I really hope this isn't permanent

 

[Teutonic]

what all are you on ?

 

[KBD]

what all are you on ?

Whilst using the anti estrogens I had dropped everything I was using and was doing only 200mg test.

Now I'm just using test but recently just added some dbol in hopes to spike my e2. That's it.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Whilst using the anti estrogens I had dropped everything I was using and was doing only 200mg test.

Now I'm just using test but recently just added some dbol in hopes to spike my e2. That's it.

you should not use ai to take away gyno... only use ai on cycle.. use serm... why? .. well now u know..
stay off the dbol and get off cycle. run a pct and give it a month and go for blood work... your poppin this and that... just stop is what i rec... give it time..

 

[KBD]

you should not use ai to take away gyno... only use ai on cycle.. use serm... why? .. well now u know..
stay off the dbol and get off cycle. run a pct and give it a month and go for blood work... your poppin this and that... just stop is what i rec... give it time..

Lmao bro I'm not doing pct. I've been on trt for years and don't plan coming off. I'll drop the dbol and continue my trt dose. I would rather die than lose my gains I worked hard for years. Cancer/Disease is the only thing that will make me lose my gains. Plus I have photo shoots coming up very soon, and am planning to compete again. Just low e2 need it to rise.

 

[halfwit]

So what did your panel come back at? Not doubting you, but curious what numbers you're talking here.

 

[KBD]

So what did your panel come back at? Not doubting you, but curious what numbers you're talking here.

Total T: 1387 (200mg test a week)
Free T: (N/a) apparently they had a problem with the blood tube.. Stupid fucks
E2- 11
DHT- 1086pg
Prolactin- NA (same problem as free T)

I am going back for the free T prolactin and adding my TSH levels as well. I'm switching health insurance so I'll be doing that in about 2 weeks when the new policy kicks in. I get it for nothing pretty much. 10$ for a full panel lol.

 

[ImAuNatural]

Total T: 1387 (200mg test a week)
Free T: (N/a) apparently they had a problem with the blood tube.. Stupid fucks
E2- 11
DHT- 1086pg
Prolactin- NA (same problem as free T)

I am going back for the free T prolactin and adding my TSH levels as well. I'm switching health insurance so I'll be doing that in about 2 weeks when the new policy kicks in. I get it for nothing pretty much. 10$ for a full panel lol.

I had bloods a while back pre cycle and my total test was 439 while my e2 was 9.5. So you're saying 11 is low?

 

[jozifp103]

chances are, it's actually lower than 11 unless you got the sensitive assay. For me, the sensitive assay always reads 16 points lower than the regular e2 test

 

[KBD]

chances are, it's actually lower than 11 unless you got the sensitive assay. For me, the sensitive assay always reads 16 points lower than the regular e2 test

Well it's def not high after the abuse of A.I. Yeah id say that's pretty low, I function very very well on 20-30.

 

[halfwit]

Total T: 1387 (200mg test a week)
Free T: (N/a) apparently they had a problem with the blood tube.. Stupid fucks
E2- 11
DHT- 1086pg
Prolactin- NA (same problem as free T)

I am going back for the free T prolactin and adding my TSH levels as well. I'm switching health insurance so I'll be doing that in about 2 weeks when the new policy kicks in. I get it for nothing pretty much. 10$ for a full panel lol.

D'oh! You're just like me in that our bodies love that 20-30 range. I don't get hit that hard by high E2 (been upwards of 600),but low tears me up.

How are your joints?

Oh, and what I have done is just cease AI for two weeks and stay on TRT doses as I aromatize at that level still. I can see bumping the test up a tad if you are one of the guys that don't aromatize though. Dbol is like adding a nuke to a nuke; not sure I'd go that route unless you can't get out of bed.

 

[KBD]

D'oh! You're just like me in that our bodies love that 20-30 range. I don't get hit that hard by high E2 (been upwards of 600),but low tears me up.

How are your joints?

Oh, and what I have done is just cease AI for two weeks and stay on TRT doses as I aromatize at that level still. I can see bumping the test up a tad if you are one of the guys that don't aromatize though. Dbol is like adding a nuke to a nuke; not sure I'd go that route unless you can't get out of bed.

Yeah bro high e2 barely ever gets to me, just can't bust a nut when it's too high. My joints feel like fuckin tin man with no oil. It sucks I have no motivation. It's been a week since I stopped and I'm still sluggish so I hope it comes back...

 

[Matt0071]

to much shit used for the guy your size, u need to cruize for abit and lay off the orals before u start fn other shit up like your kidneys

 

[Matt0071]

in a month or so i have been following your post and seemsu are poppin shit to try to gain some size or get a appetite or something
u have tried tren with no luck and other shit like insulin and shit like that, poppin orals like candy, like if your diet and u actually gave your body a well deserved break dropping down to your cruise dose and running that dose for 3-4 months and then consider blasting again, honestly the way your going your gonna start fn shit up, and obviously with all the symtoms u are having your body is fighting back and trying to tell u something!, but again your not listening to your body!

 

[Matt0071]

hopefully u are not another one of those bostin lyod guys

 

[Southernfish]

Keep your TRT dose going and drop ALL AIs, check blood again In a month and see whats up. Some guys for some reason just kill their E2 even with the lowest AI dose. When im on my TRT dose I cant and dont even take an AI, if I do im screwed. Even when I run test very high I can get away with very little AI.

 

[KBD]

hopefully u are not another one of those bostin lyod guys

Dude shut the fuck up, not lookin for advice from someone way smaller than me. You annoy me.

 

[DucBase]

Older women take estrogen pills. Does anyone know if they will help f*cked up E2 levels in guys?