Ephedra/Clen Stacking

EPHEDRANATOR2

Master of Disaster
Just wanted some feedback on taking Clen with ECA. My original lean cycle was going to look as follows.
Wk 1 Ephedra 25mg Caffeine 200mg Asprin 81mg ED
Wk 2 ECA ED
Wk 3 Clen 100 mcg ED Winstrol (winny) 50mg tab ED
Wk 4 Same
Wk 5 ECA ED Winstrol (winny) 50mg tab ED
Wk 6 Same post cycle therapy (pct) with nolva

Has anyone taken ECA and Clen together? Is there any danger in this?

6'4 200lbs.......Fairly lean in arms and legs, pockets of fat on upper body. Steadily down from 285lbs 5 years ago. Been working with free weights 2 solid years. (Missed maybe 2 weeks total)
Lifting 3-4 days week. Cardio varies between running, eliptical, swimming, and some mtn biking. At least 20 minutes of cardio per day....up to 45 minutes.

Eating 2000 (clean)cals per day.....I know, I know: EAT MORE.
 
What about the clen? Should I cycle it between the weeks of ECA, Can I use it ED with ECA?

I have taken both plenty of times, Just not together. I know that although they offer similiar thermogenic effects, the Clen is not a stimulant. I would like to stack them because: as powerful as Clen is...to me, it increases my appetite, whereas the ECA keeps my hunger down.
 
Running clen either at the same time as, or alternating with, ephedrine is pointless. They are affecting the same receptors, so there is no benefit to using them both.
 
EPHEDRANATOR2 said:
What about the clen? Should I cycle it between the weeks of ECA, Can I use it ED with ECA?

I have taken both plenty of times, Just not together. I know that although they offer similiar thermogenic effects, the Clen is not a stimulant. I would like to stack them because: as powerful as Clen is...to me, it increases my appetite, whereas the ECA keeps my hunger down.
CLEN is not a stimulant? Since when?
 
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Well I can just tell you that It has never affected my heartrate, ephedra does. I think that it is technically not a CNS stimulant.
 
"Clenbuterol belongs to a broad group of drugs knows as sympathomimetics because of its effects on the sympathetic nervous system. Clenbuterol is specifically a selective beta-2 sympathomimetic, primarily affecting only one of the three subsets of beta-receptors.

Because Clenbuterol has little beta-1 stimulating it reduces reversible airway with much less cardiovascular side effects compared to nonselective beta agonists. This is why it is an extremely effective bronchodilator, with a low level of user complaints."
 
Aboot said:
Running clen either at the same time as, or alternating with, ephedrine is pointless. They are affecting the same receptors, so there is no benefit to using them both.
I'm not convinced alternating between the two is pointless. It might be, but I'm not convinced.
 
Aboot said:
Running clen either at the same time as, or alternating with, ephedrine is pointless. They are affecting the same receptors, so there is no benefit to using them both.


i have also heard the same thing
 
You need to upregulate your beta 2 receptors, here's what I would do:
Week 1-2: Clen
Week 3-4: Upregulate receptors (Ketotifen)
Week 5-6: ECA Week 7: Upregulate receptors (Ketotifen)
Week 8-9: Clen
...or some version of that order. You could MAYBE get away with 1 week of upregulation after the clen but for me personally it takes 2 weeks.
 
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